Chiefs Let's talk about the ****ing Bills. - Page 7

Direckshun · 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:

The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
He is still Kyle Orton.

That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.

Exoter175 · 11-03-2014, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Who the Bills have beaten:

visiting the Bears, week 1
hosting the Dolphins, week 2
visiting the Lions, week 5
hosting the Vikings, week 6
visiting the Jets, week 7

Not exactly a who's who of monster villains, now is it.

The Lions are the only team there that's worth mentioning, and they missed three FG attempts in the game.

I don't care who you are, beating Chicago on their turf is tough.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How? They can't run the ball, their special teams aren't special and Orton is pure garbage.

So how do they beat the Chiefs?

Quit saying they can't run the ball! My god, injuries aside, they are still nearly averaging 100 a game against the #13, #11, #16, #21, #2, #22, #15, and #6 run defenses. Safe to say that after our game with them, regardless of whether or not we stuff them or gash us, they will likely level that average out of the last half of the season

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

105 QB rating this year. Sure about that?

To the ship, right?

Hammock Parties · 11-03-2014, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

To the ship, right?

I think the Bills are a serious sleeper.

Their D + their OL + a veteran QB who isn't afraid to go after the big play....real AFC spoiler material.

BlackOp · 11-03-2014, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

I think the Bills are a serious sleeper.

Their D + their OL + a veteran QB who isn't afraid to go after the big play....real AFC spoiler material.

Yeah....another post you will regret. The only quality win was in Detoit by 3 points...who was the Lions kicker? Good thing you didn't mention the coaches...Orton is a REAL dark horse. Not worried about this guy doing damage at all...

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Quit saying they can't run the ball! My god, injuries aside, they are still nearly averaging 100 a game against the #13, #11, #16, #21, #2, #22, #15, and #6 run defenses. Safe to say that after our game with them, regardless of whether or not we stuff them or gash us, they will likely level that average out of the last half of the season

Wow, a whole 100 yards?

How many times have you actually watched the Bills this season?

lcarus · 11-03-2014, 12:13 AM

Manning, Rivers, and Brady averaged 200 ypg against us this year, but somehow we should be looking for Orton to tear us a new one? Yeah ok.

Mother****erJones · 11-03-2014, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

I think the Bills are a serious sleeper.

Their D + their OL + a veteran QB who isn't afraid to go after the big play....real AFC spoiler material.

Ortons played 3 games THREE and has been sacked 17 times.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-03-2014, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

It would appear you don't.

Orton has been playing well (9 TD/3INT/8YPA) and is the key to their winning streak.

What's not to like?

**** you, Troll.

If you're going to exult the prowess of Kyle ****ing Orton, you should be banned.

Hammock Parties · 11-03-2014, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

**** you, Troll.

If you're going to exult the prowess of Kyle ****ing Orton, you should be banned.

Facts are facts.

He is playing very well.

I wish you would be a little nicer.

Hammock Parties · 11-03-2014, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Ortons played 3 games THREE and has been sacked 17 times.

And yet...they win.

Mother****erJones · 11-03-2014, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

And yet...they win.

So are we.

Hammock Parties · 11-03-2014, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Manning, Rivers, and Brady averaged 200 ypg against us this year, but somehow we should be looking for Orton to tear us a new one? Yeah ok.

I don't think our O will be able to grind out long drives in this one. The D will be on the field a lot and Pro Bowl Orton will strike with a vengeance.

ThaVirus · 11-03-2014, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Manning, Rivers, and Brady averaged 200 ypg against us this year, but somehow we should be looking for Orton to tear us a new one? Yeah ok.

Eh, Locker passed for more yards on us than Peyton, Rivers or Brady.

We're bound to give up 300 to someone. Orton is certainly capable.

BlackOp · 11-03-2014, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

I wish you would be a little nicer.

I wish you would be a little smarter..or just post less. KC has shut down the elite QB's in the AFC....2 in their stadiums. Orton isnt going to light up the defense/experienced coaching staff.

BlackOp · 11-03-2014, 12:28 AM

Reading some people's observations makes me think I'm of another species... the one that doesn't suck or end up on People's Court.

Mother****erJones · 11-03-2014, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

I don't think our O will be able to grind out long drives in this one. The D will be on the field a lot and Pro Bowl Orton will strike with a vengeance.

Attention whore troll

11-02-2014, 08:19 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2113447	Let's talk about the ing Bills. This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate. The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ***ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost* as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye. What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What?? I'll tell you what happened. Kyle **ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous. Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success: The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success. He is still Kyle Orton. That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone. He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown. After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-ing-diculous speedster. At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright. I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us. So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3. This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst. I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady. Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps. Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none. This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better. Let's win this **ing game.
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lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1729887	Manning, Rivers, and Brady averaged 200 ypg against us this year, but somehow we should be looking for Orton to tear us a new one? Yeah ok.
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11-03-2014, 12:28 AM	#104
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