Chiefs Creating cap space for shoring up defense for 2018 - Page 7

bigjosh · 10-21-2017, 12:52 AM

I know it is looking way into the future, and neglecting 2017, but I was interested to see what kind of cap figures we could get into for 2018.

According to over the cap, the Chiefs are set to be .9M over the cap at the start of league year 2018.

This figure includes a dead money figure of 4.8M for Jeremy Maclin, and a dead money figure of .77M for Jah Reid.

There are a few players who I think have little to no chance of being on the roster next season.

Alex smith, with a cap figure of 20.6M if cut or traded would save 17M on the cap, and cost us 3.6M in dead money.

DJ, as much as I hate to say it, is done. Ending his 10.2M contract in 2018 saves 8M and leaves us with 2.2M in dead money.

Tamba Hali has a cap number of 8.5M in 2018 and would cost us 1.5M in dead money but save us 7M if cut.

So after those three we are at roughly 31.1M in cap space.

We have no big name free agents next year that we should be too concerned with resigning. I am guessing we pick up Marcus Peters 5th year option, which will keep him on the roster through the 2019 season. Dee Fords option was picked up earlier this off season and he will be a UFA at the start of the 2019 league year.

I dont think too many of our free agents stick around after this year.

Perhaps we resign Albert Wilson, Anthony Sherman, Terrence Mitchell and Zack Fulton. Those deals shouldnt cost much more than 10M I would hope. This year combined these four players account for less than 7.5M. Maybe we resign a couple low end UFA and RFA to tenders.

So realistically we could have 21M going into free agency.

I dont know if anyone here considers Allen Bailey and Ron Parker as potential cap casualties, but Bailey would save us another 6M and Ron parker would save us another 5M.

So without those two we could be sitting pretty at 32M in cap space prior to FA with the re signings of the players mentioned before.

Players I am looking at in free agency are:

Safety Kenny Vaccaro of the saints,

ILB Todd Davis of the broncos,

ILB Zach Brown of the redskins,

CB Morris Claiborne of the jets,

These guys aren't considered "top tier" free agents, but I think each one of them could come into this defense and be an immediate upgrade for a decent deal.

I would also be looking for a 3-4 DT or DE if there were any available that were worth a shit.

That being said, with the probable release of DJ and Hali and the group of pending free agents along the D Line, if it becomes necessary to switch to a 4-3 with a new DC, this would be a decent year to do it.

What do you think guys? How can we get this defense shored up prior to the draft?

bigjosh · 01-08-2018, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by penbrook

He’s better than Ragland. Which isn’t saying much

Hey look, One of the alex smith ballwashers was wrong as usual.

Revisiting this thread, if we cut/trade the following..

Smith
Hali
DJ
Bailey
Ford
Revis

that frees up 52M in cap space, giving us a total of 48M Open space based on the projected cap of 180M.

48M can go a long way to fixing this team, and extending a few players.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-08-2018, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh

Hey look, One of the alex smith ballwashers was wrong as usual.

Revisiting this thread, if we cut/trade the following..

Smith
Hali
DJ
Bailey
Ford
Revis

that frees up 52M in cap space, giving us a total of 48M Open space based on the projected cap of 180M.

48M can go a long way to fixing this team, and extending a few players.

Bailey might be worth keeping as they likely won't need all of the cap space. Ford will be interesting too. He offers a decent pass rush but isn't stout enough against the run to earn a big payday.

bigjosh · 01-08-2018, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Bailey might be worth keeping as they likely won't need all of the cap space. Ford will be interesting too. He offers a decent pass rush but isn't stout enough against the run to earn a big payday.

Ford isnt worth his 8.7M cap number next year.

This is his contract year, and they exercised his option, so its not guaranteed money. 8.7M off the books with no dead money if he is cut.

Im down with keeping bailey for 6M, as long as he is playing. I feel like i never saw him out there this year. WTF happened to this guy?

ThaVirus · 01-08-2018, 01:00 AM

Bailey's been healthy all year, IIRC. He's pretty much been the same player he's always been: flashes a great play once every three games or so but generally just takes up space the vast majority of the time.

ThaVirus · 01-08-2018, 01:02 AM

He's not particularly stout against the run and he's a shit pass rusher. Unfortunately he is competent enough to keep a roster spot so he'll likely be back.

I want him gone, though. We need another impact down lineman.

10-21-2017, 12:52 AM
bigjosh Mahomosapien Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: the great white north Casino cash: $1254902	Creating cap space for shoring up defense for 2018 I know it is looking way into the future, and neglecting 2017, but I was interested to see what kind of cap figures we could get into for 2018. According to over the cap, the Chiefs are set to be .9M over the cap at the start of league year 2018. This figure includes a dead money figure of 4.8M for Jeremy Maclin, and a dead money figure of .77M for Jah Reid. There are a few players who I think have little to no chance of being on the roster next season. Alex smith, with a cap figure of 20.6M if cut or traded would save 17M on the cap, and cost us 3.6M in dead money. DJ, as much as I hate to say it, is done. Ending his 10.2M contract in 2018 saves 8M and leaves us with 2.2M in dead money. Tamba Hali has a cap number of 8.5M in 2018 and would cost us 1.5M in dead money but save us 7M if cut. So after those three we are at roughly 31.1M in cap space. We have no big name free agents next year that we should be too concerned with resigning. I am guessing we pick up Marcus Peters 5th year option, which will keep him on the roster through the 2019 season. Dee Fords option was picked up earlier this off season and he will be a UFA at the start of the 2019 league year. I dont think too many of our free agents stick around after this year. Perhaps we resign Albert Wilson, Anthony Sherman, Terrence Mitchell and Zack Fulton. Those deals shouldnt cost much more than 10M I would hope. This year combined these four players account for less than 7.5M. Maybe we resign a couple low end UFA and RFA to tenders. So realistically we could have 21M going into free agency. I dont know if anyone here considers Allen Bailey and Ron Parker as potential cap casualties, but Bailey would save us another 6M and Ron parker would save us another 5M. So without those two we could be sitting pretty at 32M in cap space prior to FA with the re signings of the players mentioned before. Players I am looking at in free agency are: Safety Kenny Vaccaro of the saints, ILB Todd Davis of the broncos, ILB Zach Brown of the redskins, CB Morris Claiborne of the jets, These guys aren't considered "top tier" free agents, but I think each one of them could come into this defense and be an immediate upgrade for a decent deal. I would also be looking for a 3-4 DT or DE if there were any available that were worth a shit. That being said, with the probable release of DJ and Hali and the group of pending free agents along the D Line, if it becomes necessary to switch to a 4-3 with a new DC, this would be a decent year to do it. What do you think guys? How can we get this defense shored up prior to the draft?
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ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1652369	Bailey's been healthy all year, IIRC. He's pretty much been the same player he's always been: flashes a great play once every three games or so but generally just takes up space the vast majority of the time.
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01-08-2018, 01:02 AM	#95
ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1652369	He's not particularly stout against the run and he's a shit pass rusher. Unfortunately he is competent enough to keep a roster spot so he'll likely be back. I want him gone, though. We need another impact down lineman.
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