When does Smith lose the team?

[petegz28]

In his defense the play calling the last few weeks, particularly on 3rd down has been the worst I have ever seen. Also, the OLine can't block a good HS team right now for shit.

That being said, he is consistently bailing out way too early and missing way too many open receivers. The times where he needs to just let the ball fly and see what happens stopped after game 5.

So to the point, watch the int at the end of the Bills game and look at Kelce's reaction. Typical to a point but after the calling out after the Giants loss, you have to wonder when the offense is going to start tearing itself apart?

On the last 2 drives of the Bills game, he missed a wide open Wilson for 4 yards on 4th and 4 and went deep to Hill and threw incomplete. Then on the last play of the game for KC, Kelce is open and he threw into double coverage.

I think there are a lot of reasons for a civil war on the offense, from the coaching, to play calling to blocking ...but Smith has shit his pants the last several games and even those who have tried to defend him can no longer do it.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Nice run-on sentence.

[lmccluer]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Who knows brother? You may very well be right. But reports are that he’s been lighting it up in practice and yes practice is practice and when you’re starting QB has played as badly as he has been in the last six weeks and you watch this kid in practice knowing that he is not going to be starting you get very subconsciously depressed that eventually rears its head on the conscious surface and we’re seeing that play out as we speak definitely for the last four weeks.

Someone in another thread said that Mahomes isn’t getting any reps with the starters. If that’s the case, then it may be the reason Andy hasn’t and likely won’t put Alex on the bench and put Mahomes in. Personally, I still put him in, see what he can do. Certainly won’t be any worse than it has been. If he doesn’t produce, then maybe Alex will be jolted enough to think he better get off his arse and do something.


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[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Who threw the ball? Was it a designed screen or was it QB choice of options? I didn't watch the 2nd half. I know so far this season I've seen a bunch of ****ing reeruns posting about bad play calling when it simply has not been, but rather has been Alex sucking ****ing dick.

It doesn't have to be 100% vs 0%. Andy can get some blame while still keeping the point that Alex has fallen apart since the Chargers game.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by lmccluer

Personally, I still put him in, see what he can do. Certainly won’t be any worse than it has been. If he doesn’t produce, then maybe Alex will be jolted enough to think he better get off his arse and do something.


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Agreed.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Who threw the ball? Was it a designed screen or was it QB choice of options? I didn't watch the 2nd half. I know so far this season I've seen a bunch of ****ing reeruns posting about bad play calling when it simply has not been, but rather has been Alex sucking ****ing dick.

The entire second half was built around gimmicks because when we ran a regular offense, Alex refused to throw to his primary read or checked down the majority of the time. It was Matt cassel bad. Our entire 2 minute drill in the end Alex was literally checking down on almost every play. Its actually pretty impressive we has any offensive momentum whatsoever in the second half considering it was pure gimmickry.

[Only158]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

It was reported that Peters and Kelce left the locker room before reporters were allowed in for interviews. Might have been a good thing if they have lost faith in Smith.

Incorrect.

If EITHER of them was willing to say something I think they should have. SOMEONE needs to challenge Andy and quit stroking Alice's ego. Lose to the Jets and there is no chemistry in this lockeroom anyway. I am intrigued by this Robinson detail. I would love to see the exact quote.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

It doesn't have to be 100% vs 0%. Andy can get some blame while still keeping the point that Alex has fallen apart since the Chargers game.

He fell apart in the Steelers game.

Alex was excellent vs. Washington and Houston

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Only158

Incorrect.

If EITHER of them was willing to say something I think they should have. SOMEONE needs to challenge Andy and quit stroking Alice's ego. Lose to the Jets and there is no chemistry in this lockeroom anyway. I am intrigued by this Robinson detail. I would love to see the exact quote.

I think boomer esiason was right that the Chiefs are doing this to boost Alexs trade value. His value is higher if teams aren't 100% sure that the Chiefs will cut him. At this point, his value is dropping enough that his trade value is becoming worthless anyway. I think the Chiefs including Reid know that Alex is gone next year. They're either playing him out of respect, because there are locker room leaders like Houston that would be pissed, or because they don't want to throw mahomes to the wolves. I don't think Reid or veach or Nagy are stupid enough not to see our qbs limitations.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think boomer esiason was right that the Chiefs are doing this to boost Alexs trade value. His value is higher if teams aren't 100% sure that the Chiefs will cut him. At this point, his value is dropping enough that his trade value is becoming worthless anyway. I think the Chiefs including Reid know that Alex is gone next year. They're either playing him out of respect, because there are locker room leaders like Houston that would be pissed, or because they don't want to throw mahomes to the wolves. I don't think Reid or veach or Nagy are stupid enough not to see our qbs limitations.

Houston would be upset if they benched Alex Smith? the guy who has produced a whooping 19 points against 2 horrible defenses? hmm.. yeah, i dont think thats it.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The entire second half was built around gimmicks because when we ran a regular offense, Alex refused to throw to his primary read or checked down the majority of the time. It was Matt cassel bad. Our entire 2 minute drill in the end Alex was literally checking down on almost every play. Its actually pretty impressive we has any offensive momentum whatsoever in the second half considering it was pure gimmickry.

This is what I thought was the entire truth. Alex sucks balls running the regular offense, receivers running open, and then Andy has to try to get cute just to compensate for aforementioned suckage by his QB. It's not the play calling that is pissing me off with Reid, it's his insistence on trotting out that shitbag of a QB week after week. When Alex was balling out for like 2 games this year, Andy didn't have to resort to all the screens and short-dump, shit-show calls like he has to now.

I think that's where NJChiefs is pretty much right... Andy deserves some blame, and I'd venture 47% because he won't make a change at QB and 3% of actual shitty calls. The other 50% is on Alex for failing Reid.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Only158

Incorrect.

If EITHER of them was willing to say something I think they should have. SOMEONE needs to challenge Andy and quit stroking Alice's ego. Lose to the Jets and there is no chemistry in this lockeroom anyway. I am intrigued by this Robinson detail. I would love to see the exact quote.

Here it is. I was a bit off, but it is still telling when combined with Mellingers words following what he said.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...185257518.html

I remembered it with the headline to the article, and combined those two thoughts. Though Mellinger asked him if he knew what was wrong with the offense and how to fix it. My bad.

[thegame214]

Body language

All the time

[bowener]

Originally Posted by New World Order

He's lost Kelce, that's for sure.

I wish I had a GIF of Kelce's face when he was wide ****ing open for a TD and Smith was juking imaginary defenders in the backfield before tossing to a back for no gain.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by thegame214

Body language

All the time

Smith is completely defeated. He's a beaten puppy dog. That look right there isn't inspiring this team...

[Easy 6]

Just sitting their like a mopey ****ing hump