Chiefs How would YOU try to improve the defense? - Page 7

UChieffyBugger · 05:12 PM

Amid all the hysteria over our two wins and offensive performances, I'm just wondering what can realistically be done to improve the defense? Now we know Berry will hopefully be returning soon which should be massive, but with the way this offense is looking, just a slight improvement on defense could take us to the promise land yall. So does Veach sit, be patient and hope Berry is enough to improve things? Should he get on the phone and beg Breeland to join the kingdom? Or should he seek to make a trade of some sort?

I think I'd probably go with trying to get Breeland in and with Berry added to the mix I think the unit would be vastly improved.

...Breeland...Berry...Parker...Fuller...

With Nelson In the slot. Surely that would be enough?

**dannybcaitlyn** · 09-16-2018, 06:41 PM

RaidersOftheCellar · 09-16-2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Berry and a shit ton more blitzing. It'll fail a lot, but at least it'll fail quickly; and more importantly, it'll at least get a FEW more stops, which we need to even out the amount of plays.

And it'll still be bad because we're bad, but less bad, and - again - it'll importantly even TOP, and keep them OFF the field.

I'm with this idea.

If they're going to score anyway, might as well take an all or nothing approach. At least the offense will get more possessions.

This is the approach they need to take when they get into one of these helpless shootouts vs an elite offense.

htismaqe · 09-16-2018, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Keep in mind the Steelers punted 5 times today, and went 3 of 11 on third down.

3 of 11 on third down. Just needed to be reposted.

htismaqe · 09-16-2018, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Icon

I'm no fan of Sutton but the primary issue is personnel. We have 3 legitimate starters on Defense: Chris Jones, Hitchens and Fuller. Everyone else are just guys.

Houston hasn't done shit since he got paid.
Ford is a fragile brokedick.
Allan Bailey should be in jail for robbing the Chiefs for his current contract.
Xavier Williams is a free agent JAG.
Ragland is a 2-down thumper and is a liability against the pass.
Steve Nelson teases but never delivers.
Scandrick is recycled garbage.
Ron Parker is twice recycled garbage.

You can make lemonade from lemons but you can't make a quality defense from a bunch of brokedick, recycled garbage.

Our latest high round defensive draft picks (KPass and Speaks) are playing out of position. They were big defensive linemen in college asked to played OLB in pros. That's weird shit right there. Never mind neither player were all that good in college.

Yes, Bob Sutton sucks. The problem is bigger than Bob Sutton.

Ragland so far this season hasn't even been a 2-down thumper. He tackles like a matador...

Iconic · 09-16-2018, 06:48 PM

Draft better.

We just don't seem to draft defense well. It's almost always some project turd that takes the entire length of their rookie contract to get their collective shit together... and by then these guys are looking for a payday.

**Easy 6** · 09-16-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I can't speak for others but my frustration is coming in how far I think this team can go if we just get competent pass coverage. The thrill of this victory is not lost on me.

I'll gladly meet you halfway at - gimme competent coverage, and also no blatant and repeated pass rush holding allowed

Mecca · 09-16-2018, 06:56 PM

The amount of snaps Terrence Smith is getting in subs says that without Sorenson they don't think O'Daniel is ready and that is really really hurting the defense as Smith is a special teamer only.

**petegz28** · 09-16-2018, 06:57 PM

stop the 3 man rush crap....
send the middle LB's a little more...
Stunt?? What's a stunt?...
Quite leaving the middle of the field wide ****ing open...

htismaqe · 09-16-2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

stop the 3 man rush crap....
send the middle LB's a little more...
Stunt?? What's a stunt?...
Quite leaving the middle of the field wide ****ing open...

You want to send the middle LB's on more blitzes and not leave the middle of the field open at the same time.

It's like we didn't spend all offseason talking about how bad our safeties are. And of course, using Houston or Ford in pass coverage isn't acceptable either.

Perhaps Sutton should just play 14 guys instead of 11? Or may conjure up some flying monkeys to cover the middle of the field?

Mecca · 09-16-2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

3 of 11 on third down. Just needed to be reposted.

This team just lacks players and a lot of the issue was even getting the Steelers to 3rd down..but of course that is one of the most dynamic offenses in the league.

This will settle down a bit when the Chiefs get to play some of the worse QB's around. Most teams don't get 2 of the top 10 guys in the game on the road to start the year.

htismaqe · 09-16-2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The amount of snaps Terrence Smith is getting in subs says that without Sorenson they don't think O'Daniel is ready and that is really really hurting the defense as Smith is a special teamer only.

The fact that O'Daniel hasn't sniffed the field is VERY disappointing.

htismaqe · 09-16-2018, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This team just lacks players and a lot of the issue was even getting the Steelers to 3rd down..but of course that is one of the most dynamic offenses in the league.

This will settle down a bit when the Chiefs get to play some of the worse QB's around. Most teams don't get 2 of the top 10 guys in the game on the road to start the year.

Yep.

Yep.

**petegz28** · 09-16-2018, 07:01 PM

When you cant get pressure with your down 4 you have 2 choices...

A) Blitz
B) give up on the rush and drop everyone in coverage

I'd lay $'s to donuts that Wade Phillips improves this defense immensely with the same people

Sutton has no idea what he wants this defense to be. And it shows. He tries to defend against everything on every play....walks down the middle of the road if you will, afraid to pick a side

Mecca · 09-16-2018, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The fact that O'Daniel hasn't sniffed the field is VERY disappointing.

It's not good when Shaqueem Griffin is starting already...either way if O'Daniel is good at what we were told he should be playing in the passing subs at the very least.

**dirk digler** · 09-16-2018, 07:02 PM

Outside of firing Sutton I would play all the young guys like Watts, Smith, and Dorian to get some much needed speed on the field. Yeah they will make mistakes but they will probably make some big time plays as well.

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UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $2070400	How would YOU try to improve the defense? Amid all the hysteria over our two wins and offensive performances, I'm just wondering what can realistically be done to improve the defense? Now we know Berry will hopefully be returning soon which should be massive, but with the way this offense is looking, just a slight improvement on defense could take us to the promise land yall. So does Veach sit, be patient and hope Berry is enough to improve things? Should he get on the phone and beg Breeland to join the kingdom? Or should he seek to make a trade of some sort? I think I'd probably go with trying to get Breeland in and with Berry added to the mix I think the unit would be vastly improved. ...Breeland...Berry...Parker...Fuller... With Nelson In the slot. Surely that would be enough? Last edited by UChieffyBugger; 09-16-2018 at 05:12 PM..
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2087050	The amount of snaps Terrence Smith is getting in subs says that without Sorenson they don't think O'Daniel is ready and that is really really hurting the defense as Smith is a special teamer only.
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petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2244127	When you cant get pressure with your down 4 you have 2 choices... A) Blitz B) give up on the rush and drop everyone in coverage I'd lay $'s to donuts that Wade Phillips improves this defense immensely with the same people Sutton has no idea what he wants this defense to be. And it shows. He tries to defend against everything on every play....walks down the middle of the road if you will, afraid to pick a side
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dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $2764644	Outside of firing Sutton I would play all the young guys like Watts, Smith, and Dorian to get some much needed speed on the field. Yeah they will make mistakes but they will probably make some big time plays as well.
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