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WilliamTheIrish · 08:21 AM

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After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

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**DeezNutz** · 07-08-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Fransworth yes....Guillen no. Overpaid but served the purpose much like Meche did. I know Ia m in the minority but Guillen was not a bad move.

What purpose did it serve?

He's in the 2nd year and is below replacement value. Comparing Guillen and Meche is a huge insult to the latter.

OmahaChief · 07-08-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I was excited about the Moore hire simply because it signaled that Glass was willing to actually try to win, something he hadn't done to that point. I honestly had limited knowledge about Moore's baseball IQ, and some had pointed out that the Braves system wasn't exactly stocked when he took the job with KC.

Glass needs to continue to spend money, and even more of it, and Moore needs to prove that he has the tools himself to do the job.

What's his biggest accomplishment? Trading a felon for Brian Bannister? That's pretty much full of win. Soria? Also full of win. Re-signing Greinke? No win. Any GM with half a ****ing brain and the necessary resources would have inked this kid to an extension.

On the Greinke issue, getting him to sign for the money he did was a win in my opinion. Other far crappier pitchers signed for more per year than Zack did so we did get a decent value there.

**DeezNutz** · 07-08-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OmahaChief

On the Greinke issue, getting him to sign for the money he did was a win in my opinion. Other far crappier pitchers signed for more per year than Zack did so we did get a decent value there.

Kazmir pretty much set the market price, though. That said, I don't dispute that fact that we got great value for an ace. I just don't think Dayton did anything special to accomplish this.

**petegz28** · 07-08-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

What purpose did it serve?

He's in the 2nd year and is below replacement value. Comparing Guillen and Meche is a huge insult to the latter.

He led us in HR's and RBI's last year...if I am not mistaken...

Was he a legit #4 like we portrayed? No. Is he underperforming this year? Yea. I still say he served the purpose of what Moore was trying to to do. We overpaid for him for the same reason we overpaid for Meche. Or at least I like to think that. But with what we paid Farnsy and HoRam I am wondering if Moore just overpays? Like I said, I know I am in the minority.

Sure-Oz · 07-08-2009, 01:58 PM

In other news....worth trying to pick up?

per rotoworld and mlbtraderumors.com

Blue Jays Release B.J. Ryan
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 8 at 2:44pm CST]
The Blue Jays have released B.J. Ryan, according to MLB.com's Jordan Bastian. The 33-year-old lefty signed a five year $47MM deal with the Jays before the 2006 season that was, at the time, the largest deal ever for a reliever. The contract expires after 2010, but the Jays still owe Ryan about $15MM.

Ryan dominated in 2006, striking out more than four times as many as he walked and allowing 30 fewer hits than innings pitched. However, he's been a major disappointment since missing 2007 with Tommy John surgery. He was effective last year, but has struggled in 2009, walking 7.4 batters per nine with a career-low strikeout rate and more hits allowed than innings

and

Dana Eveland-S- Athletics Jul. 8 - 9:01 am et

A's designated LHP Dana Eveland for assignment.

Eveland gave up four runs on six hits and three walks in 2 2/3 innings during a spot start Tuesday night. He was a curious choice to fill in for the bereaved Dallas Braden because he was out of options and had a 7.40 earned-run average during his last trip through the bigs. He should draw some attention from other organizations.

He's only 25 years old and had a 3.49 era in AAA this year and is a left handed starter...he had a 4.34 era last year and 9 wins.

Sure-Oz · 07-08-2009, 02:14 PM

Nevermind on eveland, it seems as if he is on 'optional waivers' which means the A's can keep him. He is rumored to be the PTBNL in the Hairston deal....

**ChiTown** · 07-08-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He led us in HR's and RBI's last year...if I am not mistaken...

and.................we have NOTHING to show for it. NADA

Sure-Oz · 07-08-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He led us in HR's and RBI's last year...if I am not mistaken...

Was he a legit #4 like we portrayed? No. Is he underperforming this year? Yea. I still say he served the purpose of what Moore was trying to to do. We overpaid for him for the same reason we overpaid for Meche. Or at least I like to think that. But with what we paid Farnsy and HoRam I am wondering if Moore just overpays? Like I said, I know I am in the minority.

he was the 3rd option after Hunter and Jones signed elsewhere....i really wish we didn't get tied down to such an ugly contract for a 1 year wonder who really wasn't all that.

His #'s will get worse and he's virtually untradeable being an expensive DH only with no power.

**DeezNutz** · 07-08-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He led us in HR's and RBI's last year...if I am not mistaken...

Was he a legit #4 like we portrayed? No. Is he underperforming this year? Yea. I still say he served the purpose of what Moore was trying to to do. We overpaid for him for the same reason we overpaid for Meche. Or at least I like to think that. But with what we paid Farnsy and HoRam I am wondering if Moore just overpays? Like I said, I know I am in the minority.

If he were a consistent contributor, I'd agree. Meche, for example, has been very solid for 2.5 years. If he'd only been good for one year, I'd label him a huge mistake, too.

And Guillen's numbers last year, even if they were toward the top, were still connected to the overall pile of shit. In other words, he wasn't a turd that fell out of the dog's ass later, away from the larger pile.

Demonpenz · 07-08-2009, 02:26 PM

Guillen is an alright 6th or 7th hitter. his bat speed has lost some luster. the only good thing is when it gets hot out he is bound to give a fan a swirly in the fountans or kick the shit out of another Dominican player he hates.

Sure-Oz · 07-08-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If he were a consistent contributor, I'd agree. Meche, for example, has been very solid for 2.5 years. If he'd only been good for one year, I'd label him a huge mistake, too.

And Guillen's numbers last year, even if they were toward the top, were still connected to the overall pile of shit. In other words, he wasn't a turd that fell out of the dog's ass later, away from the larger pile.

his #'s from last year would be worse if he didn't have that 2 or 3 week rbi tear

**DeezNutz** · 07-08-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Guillen is an alright 6th or 7th hitter. his bat speed has lost some luster. the only good thing is when it gets hot out he is bound to give a fan a swirly in the fountans or kick the shit out of another Dominican player he hates.

I'm fine with having Guillen in the lineup. Doesn't bother me at all. It does, however, bother me that a sub-par player is our highest paid guy. For the money, it's a ****ing complete travesty.

Begs the question, so what should we have done? Couldn't get Hunter or Jones (thank you). So sign NO ONE. Save the money and throw a ****ing shit ton at a guy like Tex.

He's getting 22.5 per from NY. Would he have come here for 25? 26? Try.

**petegz28** · 07-08-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If he were a consistent contributor, I'd agree. Meche, for example, has been very solid for 2.5 years. If he'd only been good for one year, I'd label him a huge mistake, too.

And Guillen's numbers last year, even if they were toward the top, were still connected to the overall pile of shit. In other words, he wasn't a turd that fell out of the dog's ass later, away from the larger pile.

Meche stunk the 1st half of last year.

Sure-Oz · 07-08-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Meche stunk the 1st half of last year.

Meche>Guillen

period...

He isn't going to get much better, he can't even stay healthy and looks like half of what he was last year.

**DeezNutz** · 07-08-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Meche stunk the 1st half of last year.

He had 9 quality starts out of 19 total starts.

Great? Nope. Considering the shit defense we had and have, though, I'd say that number isn't too damn bad.

Again, linking Meche and Guillen is a ****ing joke. The two aren't comparable on any level. One has performed and one hasn't.

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