Dorsey: There is no definite first round QB

[RunKC]

No clear quarterback choice for Chiefs in the draft
By ADAM TEICHER
Kansas City Star
Published Saturday, Feb. 16, 2013, at 3:36 p.m.
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Pros and cons
Matt Barkley, 6-2, 230, USC: Superb leadership skills, the first one at practice or meetings and the last one to leave. But his arm strength is suspect. May be a system fit.

Mike Glennon, 6-7, 220, North Carolina State: Strong arm. He’s easily able to make all the necessary throws. But a lack of mobility could be a problem against a strong pass rush.

Ryan Nassib, 6-2, 225, Syracuse: Good mobility and throws well on the run. But he’s a late-bloomer who might need more seasoning before he’s ready for the NFL.

Geno Smith, 6-3, 210, West Virginia: Has best ability of all the top prospects. Was durable in college, but he’s not an imposing specimen. So how will he hold up in the NFL?

Tyler Wilson, 6-2, 220, Arkansas: Will stand in and take a hit but still make an accurate throw. But he’s short for an ideal NFL quarterback and has small hands, which could lead to fumbling problems.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — The Chiefs spent the last several days setting their draft board in preparation for this week’s NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. The process merely confirmed for new general manager John Dorsey that when it comes to quarterbacks, their homework is only starting.

Opinions on the top available quarterbacks in this year’s draft are that varied.

“There is no quarterback where personnel guys can definitely say, ‘He’s a first-round pick,’ ” Dorsey said. “There were so many inconsistencies in the collective group. There was not one guy that stood up and said, ‘I’m the guy in the position this year.’ There really wasn’t one clear-cut guy.

“There are too many technical flaws, scheme flaws. There are so many different variables that there are a lot of people all over the place on naming the top four or five guys and who those guys would be.”

The Chiefs aren’t the only team having trouble sorting through the top quarterback prospects. From the natural ability of West Virginia’s Geno Smith to the smooth leadership skills of USC’s Matt Barkley to the willingness to take a hit in the face of a strong pass rush of Arkansas’ Tyler Wilson, there are plenty of things to like.

There are reasons to pause just the same. Smith faltered late last fall against better competition. Barkley and Wilson had disappointing, injury-marred senior seasons.

This is a particular problem for teams like the Chiefs, who have a gaping need at quarterback. Dorsey didn’t say so specifically, but he didn’t sound like the Chiefs were planning to take a quarterback with the first pick in this year’s draft.

More likely, the Chiefs will select a quarterback later in the draft — if they take one at all.

Dorsey said both he and coach Andy Reid would be in attendance at the workouts of most, if not all, of the top available quarterbacks.

“I think Andy is a really good evaluator of quarterbacks,” Dorsey said. “I want him and I to go to as many quarterback workouts as possible and actually set our own up.”

The quarterback rankings for last year’s draft were determined almost a year in advance. Stanford’s Andrew Luck was a consensus choice to be the top player selected as soon as the 2011 draft was finished. Baylor’s Robert Griffin III came on as a senior to win the Heisman Trophy and make the race interesting, but in the end, Luck was selected first by Indianapolis. Griffin was taken with the next pick by Washington.

“Last year was an easy evaluation,” draft analyst Mel Kiper said. “Automatically, you put Andrew Luck and RG III up there.”

This year, quarterback ratings are scattered. Some teams like Smith, but others have different favorites, like Barkley, Wilson, North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon or Syracuse’s Ryan Nassib.

“The year didn’t go the way Barkley and the USC Trojans hoped,” Kiper said. “He began the year number one on my big board. You saw what happened with USC. They lost four games with Barkley at quarterback and lost a couple more when he was hurt. They didn’t have a signature win all year. They dropped down the rankings from number one and he dropped down the rankings from number one.

“Geno Smith started out great. It looked like after Barkley struggled you could lock Geno Smith in. Then he has a disappointing second half of the season, so there are issues in terms of what type of starting quarterback he can be. Glennon was hot for a while even though he had a subpar supporting cast, and he didn’t play great (in the bowl game) against Vanderbilt and didn’t have a wow-you-over Senior Bowl week.

“Things didn’t fall into place at Arkansas, and that affected Tyler Wilson. The wheels came off for all the quarterbacks at some point (last) year. Things just didn’t fall right to allow them to maximize their ability. That’s why the teams are right now in the predicament they are, trying to figure this whole quarterback thing out and not overdraft or push a guy up when he’s not deserving.”

Kiper doesn’t have a quarterback rated among his top 25 players. In fact, in his latest mock draft, Kiper doesn’t have a single quarterback being selected in the first round.

“It’s just a tough evaluation, trying to figure out which quarterbacks in this draft, if any, will be great starting quarterbacks,” he said.

Dorsey said he expects at least two quarterbacks to be drafted in the first round because so many teams have a need. It’s a matter, though, of which ones.

Things could solidify in the next couple of months. The draft doesn’t begin until April 25. Meanwhile, the combine begins this week, followed by pro days on college campuses and then individual workouts.

To Dorsey, at least, personal interviews might be the most important part of the postseason draft process. He said a quarterback can improve his draft standing with a series of strong interviews.

“The most impressive interview I’ve ever had in the last 25 years of doing this? Russell Wilson,” said Dorsey, referring to the quarterback drafted by Seattle last year in the third round. “Wasn’t even close. You could feel that guy as a person, how strong he was, how intellectually deep he was, how mentally tough he was, that he had the charisma to lead other players. I always try to look at kids like I’m in the locker room and I’m a teammate. It was easy to see this guy leading a team.

“A quarterback wants to come across in the interview process as confident, as having a vast understanding and knowledge of defenses, as being capable of leading a group of men. That’s what you’ve got to convey to the teams. On film, his physical traits and skills will come out. But you have to over the next few weeks impress on teams the character of his soul, his ability to lead a franchise.”

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[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Joeckel is a better player doesn't that improve the team?

What if he isn't a better player than Albert?

It's a ****ing stupid pick in all manner, shape, and form. There's nothing the least bit sensical or legit about it.

[Nightfyre]

I would rather have:

1) Geno
2) Rhodes


Than:
1) Star
2) Dysert/Glennon/Manuel

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Joeckel is a better player doesn't that improve the team?

Now think about how much Joeckel is going to impact our team because of his ability to be a top 5 LT compared to Albert's ability to be top 10. How many wins will that bring us?

[The Franchise]

O.city is either a horrible troll or a ****ing reerun.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I would rather have:

1) Geno
2) Rhodes


Than:
1) Star
2) Dysert/Glennon/Manuel

No doubt.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

O.city is either a horrible troll or a ****ing reerun.

I'm trying to figure it out.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by SNR

What if he isn't a better player than Albert?

It's a ****ing stupid pick in all manner, shape, and form. There's nothing the least bit sensical or legit about it.

Well we can play the what if game all day. What if Geno busts etc.


It's not what I want them to do, but shit, I'm just discussing different options.

It likely won't happen as we've heard they want Albert and he checks out.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

O.city is either a horrible troll or a ****ing reerun.

More than likely a little bit of both.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Your definition of legit is "to not improve the team at all?"

Albert only gave up one sack last year and the report from today about his back was that it showed no problems and he passed a full physical that was team requested.

Wow this is a horrible post.

[O.city]

Just discussing fellas, no need to attack.


I don't really know what we do if we re up Albert and don't go Qb at 1. Just discussing options.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Wow this is a horrible post.

How so?

[KCrockaholic]

I'm going to throw this in here. The average fan. People I work with seem to say that Geno's knock is that he has too small of a frame to hold up in the NFL. Just let that sink in.

The average fan in Kansas City doesn't want Geno because they think he's too small.

This is why I get so angry.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I'm going to throw this in here. The average fan. People I work with seem to say that Geno's knock is that he has too small of a frame to hold up in the NFL. Just let that sink in.

The average fan in Kansas City doesn't want Geno because they think he's too small.

This is why I get so angry.

Yeah, that I don't see. He's what, 6"3 215? He can add weight on that frame.

[O.city]

Do any of you guys have any idea how we could get some all 22 tape on any of the QBs in this class?

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, that I don't see. He's what, 6"3 215? He can add weight on that frame.

And people around this town don't want him because of his size and because they're afraid he'll get injured.

You know. A prospect who's never been injured in the first place.