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05-31-2013, 12:05 AM | #1126 |
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Lights out was a poor choice of words because he did have his struggles but he was pretty good.
Another note, If they don't resume can we win this game 2-1? Is that really right? |
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05-31-2013, 06:56 AM | #1127 |
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WTF Matheny?
You put Boggs in instead of Mujica. WTF |
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05-31-2013, 08:11 AM | #1128 |
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This has to be the end of Boggs. The anger and disgust from the home crowd was as bad as I've ever seen it. He has no place on this team.
If Matheny had determined to give him one more chance, he's done it and has his answer. |
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05-31-2013, 10:08 AM | #1129 | |
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Man that has to be tough, being part of a WS team to this in 1 and 1/3rd seasons. |
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I think Matheny is doing a great job. One of his strengths is standing up and supporting his players. like most human beings his strength is also his weakness. He put his support of one player over his support of the team. How can he continue to do this and not lose the locker room? And just where the **** is the evidence that Boggs deserves chance after chance? Here's some stats from Bernie's column today: In 38 plate appearances against Boggs in "close and late," scenarios, hitters have: - Gone 13 for 25 with three doubles, three homers, and 12 RBIs. - Drawn 11 unintentional walks… and also a hit-by-pitch. - Batted .520 with a .658 onbase percentage and .1000 slugging percentage. Mercy. With that stark evidence available to him, why in the world would Matheny think it’s a good idea to use Boggs in high-leverage situations? By the way, this isn't all on Matheny. Why in the world did Mozeliak call Boggs up from Memphis? Boggs had a 5.06 ERA at Memphis after being sent to Triple A to get himself right. Did I miss something? In his last Triple A appearance Boggs pitched walked three, gave up two hits, allowed three runs, and retired one batter. And the Cardinals, so inspired by this, immediately PROMOTED HIM. Really? I'm sorry, was Esteban Yan unavailable? In 18 games this year, Boggs has an 11.05 ERA. He’s given up 21 hits, 14 walks and hit a batter in 14.2 innings. He’s blown three saves in five chances. He’s been mugged for a .339 batting average, a .475 onbase percentage, and a .500 slugging percentage. Boggs has appeared in nine games lost by the Cardinals this season, and in those nine appearances he has a 22.09 ERA. And many of the nine games were flat-out winnable _ or should have been won: * April 3 at Arizona: Cardinals take a 9-8 lead in the top of the 12th, Boggs enters, gives up a run, blows the save and the Diamondbacks win 10-9 in 16 innings. * April 8 vs. Cincinnati: Game is tied 4-4 when Boggs takes over in the top of the ninth. He retires one batter and gives up six earned runs and the Reds go onto win 13-4. * April 14 vs. Milwaukee: Boggs inherits a 3-2 lead as he takes the mound in the top of the ninth. Allows a run, blown save, Brewers win 4-3 in 10. * April 21 at Philadelphia: Game is tied 4-4 in the eighth, Boggs enters, retires one batter, gives up four earned runs, and the Cardinals lose 7-3. * April 27, vs. Pittsburgh: Cardinals lose 5-3. Boggs wasn’t a negative factor; he pitched a scoreless ninth. * May 20, at San Diego: The Cardinals are losing 3-2 and still have a chance when Boggs gets the call to open the bottom of the seventh. Moments later, they have less of a chance after Will Venable homers off Boggs to give the Padres a 4-2 lead. * May 25, at Los Angeles: The Cardinals trail 4-3 in the eighth, and Boggs is ripped for an RBI double that puts the Dodgers up 5-3. * May 30, vs. Kansas City: Rookie Michael Wacha pitches seven wonderful innings in his MLB debut and the Cardinals cling to a 2-1 lead as the ninth begins with Boggs on the mound. Jeff Francoeur homers to tie it. Boggs walks Alex Gordon and is pulled. Royals win 4-2.
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Here's some stats from Bernie's column today:
In 38 plate appearances against Boggs in "close and late," scenarios, hitters have: - Gone 13 for 25 with three doubles, three homers, and 12 RBIs. - Drawn 11 unintentional walks… and also a hit-by-pitch. - Batted .520 with a .658 onbase percentage and .1000 slugging percentage. That is insane, no more chances for that worthless excuse of a pitcher. |
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I remember when Busch turned on Tino a few years ago and that wasn't nearly as bad as this. Here's the thing, though - if you ask most people in that stadium, they weren't booking Boggs, they were booing Matheny. Boggs has been a great soldier that's done nothing but work on his game and do anything the team asked of him. He's certainly had great moments in his Cardinals career and he's well liked by his teammates. There's no reason to hate Boggs here. But Matheny...jesus christ man, WTF? Boggs may/may not be done, I don't know. What I do know and what 40,000 people knew is that he had no business on that mound last night.
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Boggs like Franklin, Izzy and all the rest of the relievers that lost the ability to get batters out worked hard to try to get it back together but sometimes its cut bait time.
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There was far more "Matheny, WTF?" than there were people piling on Boggs. Boggs walked out of there like a whipped dog - the fans know he isn't confident in himself. "Turning on Matheny" is strong, but the sentiment was overwhelmingly against Matheny for doing something that everyone in that stadium knew was doomed to fail.
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Keith Butler recalled.
Boggs back to Memphis. I expect that's the last we'll see of him. I don't see him recovering in this organization. He and Scrabble have burned up their good will and relievers are just too volatile/fungible. On the flip side, Butler's an intriguing late-inning arm. I really really wish Swagerty were healthy right now. EDIT: Short article on Butler from last year: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...67879ce5e.html Looking at his numbers, it honestly makes me wonder why the !@#$ Boggs ever got recalled in the first place.
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Why do you think they're reticent to bring up Siegrist?
Matheny built up a lot of good will from me. He squandered a lot of it last night. He put Boggs over the rest of the team. But it's not just that. I guess that Rosenthal was unavailable because he'd warmed up five straight days. Matheny has to get better control on his bullpen management, lest he turn into the Grim Reaper of arms, like Dusty Baker and Joe Torre.
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I don't think Scrabble is hated by the fans. Boggs on the other hand.............He can never pitch again without being booed coming out of the pen.
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Scrabble's only useful as a meat shield in a bank shootout. He stinks, and I hate him.
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Being used twice but being warmed up 5 straight !@#$ing days is just as stupid as using Boggs in his stead. Then later on he doubled down on stupid by trying to say "We held Boggs in reserve because the 9th is tough if you haven't done it before"...AS THOUGH BOGGS HAS ANY KIND OF TRACK RECORD OF ACTUALLY 'DOING IT' BEFORE. Yeah, Matheny's never really been my favorite and I really rode his ass for his bullpen management last year. He's done nothing to win me over in that regard. His players may love playing for him, but that only lasts for as long as you're winning. If this team starts to lose, Mike Matheny's buddy/buddy shit and inept bullpen management starts to look Ned Yost in a godddamn hurry. I still can't believe how last night went down and his justifications for same just makes things worse.
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