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Old 03-11-2011, 07:35 PM  
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Japan going Chernobyl <-original thread i got banned for. thanks idiot mods.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...reactors_N.htm

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Old 03-21-2011, 02:40 PM   #1171
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In that picture, I don't see any firetrucks hosing it down. I see a Cement truck. That is very telling, IMO.
Heh, that shit should be hitting CA/OR/WA in about two days huh?
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:24 PM   #1172
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Given that 1970's technology was able to resist an earthquake hundreds of times stronger than they were rated for (before a freak 30-foot tsunami wiped them out) I count only 4 locations on that map which are even vaguely questionable, and even then its debatable whether those faults are even capable of producing a 9.0
My friend, save your breath.

The people you would try to reach with your arguments have never used logic or reason to formulate their opinions. Years of anti-nuclear propaganda streaming through our mainstream media have turned out a Pavlovian population which knows only one reaction to the words "nuclear power". Add to the mix the nearly paranoiac rantings of the conspiracy crew, and you'll find there is little chance of real scientific debate.
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:34 PM   #1173
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:34 PM   #1174
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So...we're all gonna die?
Ban Teedubya or im leaving this thread FOREVER.
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:05 PM   #1175
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Ban Teedubya or im leaving this thread FOREVER.
. Is this where I harness my inner Dane and say, **** OFF AND DIE?
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:07 PM   #1176
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So...we're all gonna die?
No, no. Everything is fine. They have the power hooked back up, and the reactors aren't smoking, at all.

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Old 03-21-2011, 04:11 PM   #1177
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Heh, that shit should be hitting CA/OR/WA in about two days huh?
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:13 PM   #1178
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No, no it's not.
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Well yeah...........
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:42 PM   #1180
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Yes....some just sooner than others.
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:45 PM   #1181
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Well yeah...........
Yeah, someday. Hopefully several decades from now.

We live on a very, volatile rock orbiting a much hotter rock with other smaller rocks floating around us. We have a magnetic field that protects us from the sun spots & solar flares, [except during KU MU games]. We are lucky to be here, so I say we just enjoy the ride as long as we can, because I acknowledge life is a miracle.

We have huge gas planets on the outer part of the solar system that most of the celestial debris hits, thus protecting Earth. We are truly lucky to be here... sure, shit goes down, and I like to be informed of it.

But, no one was guaranteed 90 years on Earth. No one was guaranteed a Chiefs superbowl. heh. But, we have this day, and that is all we are guaranteed. This moment.

So, hopefully people can have love in their hearts and kindness in their souls for the rest of humanity if shit goes down. Shit happens outside of our control... but the Earth keeps on spinning... for now. There are no riots or looting in Japan, and if that happened in America, this would most likely NOT be the case.

It would be better if the leaders in charge cared more about the people and less about power and pieces of paper with deceased notables on it. But, when it's my time to go, I'll go with strength and faith that it's time to meet my maker. So, I'm going to attempt moving away from the fear of the unknown and back to the realization that energy never dies and that my time on this ride on Earth isn't a guarantee.

I'm not scared of the radiation. If I die from it, I die from it. I'm mostly pissed of the corruption of the world governments, central bankers and the media control of accurate information. I'm a seeker of truths, and most of the time, this world is filled of lies, deceit and uber amounts of misdirection and bullshit.
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What's the difference between an oscillatory and a trepidatory earthquake?


1. This calculation is just for engineers:






And these three are for those ignorant bastages--like you and me:


2.This is a trepidatory earthquake:



3. This is an oscillatory earthquake:


4. And this is a combination of both: (trepidatory and oscillatory)





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Just to illustrate how idiotically paranoid we are about nuclear radiation:

You heard about that panic about the nuclear contaminated milk in Japan? Well, if you drank one full glass of that radioactive Japanese milk, every single freakin day, for an entire year, you still would not get as much radiation in that year as one chest X-ray.

Obviously the food supply would be more significantly damaged if we had a full Chernobyl, but we don't have a full Chernobyl. So, until we do, the media is being completely reeruned with their panic stories. Which is fine if, like me, you are fine with putting up with tons and tons of coal and natural gas plants, and all the death they bring, all over the US from coast to coast.

If you aren't fine with that, then you should know that nuclear power, aside from being the safest form of base power we have (though also more expensive than fossil fuels), is also the only base power option available to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. If you believe in that sort of thing.
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:56 PM   #1184
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My friend, save your breath.

The people you would try to reach with your arguments have never used logic or reason to formulate their opinions. Years of anti-nuclear propaganda streaming through our mainstream media have turned out a Pavlovian population which knows only one reaction to the words "nuclear power". Add to the mix the nearly paranoiac rantings of the conspiracy crew, and you'll find there is little chance of real scientific debate.
You are probably right. Perversely, since I'd rather we turn to cheaper coal and natural gas, this anti-nuclear sentiment works in my favor. So, I should be happy about this earthquake, but I'm not, because the people are focused on this stupid primitive caveman fear of magic invisible nuclear radiation. Screw science, we don't understand radiation like we understand mining and burning stuff, as if it was some magical thing we invented yesterday and we hadn't come up with better ways to handle it in the 40+ years since this decrepit old Japanese reactor was built.

Its like watching your team win a game due to an obviously-wrong, you-cant-even-pretend-the-ref's-call-was-correct, bullshit penalty. Yeah, I'd like to win, but I'm not really happy because I won due to someone's complete failure.

Oh well, maybe I should just enjoy the lower electric bill and not care that people are being stupid, since thats what I'd want anyway.
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