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big nasty kcnut · 04-30-2007, 10:58 PM

Did yoiu guys see the ecw guys on raw getting pissed that vince won the ecw belts and tommy speaking from his heart. I so want to see them kill vince soul tomorrow.

Buns · 05-09-2007, 01:20 AM

Ok, I haven't watched any shows recently, but...

Cena is corny, especially as the urban marine. Always has been, but he could make a good heel if he took the right approach.

I don't think Orton can work the mic very well or give a good diamond cutter, but he has the look and will get pushed accordingly.

How is the Alpha Male doing?

Michael Cole is a flamer. I wish Kevin Nash would make a one time appearance and give him a Jackknife through a flaming table proceeded by a couple minutes being choked out by Taz.

I haven't seen him wrestle that much (some in TNA, one good match where he carried Rhino in ECW) but I think Chris Daniels would fit well in WWE IMHO.

Is Nova still doing the workout guru gimmick or did he get cut?

keg in kc · 05-09-2007, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by iChief702

I don't think Orton can work the mic very well or give a good diamond cutter, but he has the look and will get pushed accordingly.

Orton recently got into trouble with the company for about the 8000th time, so if he does get pushed - ever - it won't be anytime soon. At this point, he'll be lucky to be jobbing until he's 40.

As for the Monty Brown, he's basically buried in a pretty lame stable in ECW right now. Although he did beat CM Punk last night, with some help from Elija Burke.

Swanman · 05-09-2007, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I'd love to see the pendulum swing away from big, body builder types w/ impressive physique but non impressive ring work to guys who can plain wrestle a match, "small" or not.

That's why I love ROH. They, like most indies, have a bunch of smaller guys that can all flat-out go in the ring (Bryan Danielson, Roderick Strong, Delirious, Briscoe Brothers, etc.). They do have storylines (written by Gabe Sapolsky, Heyman's protege in ECW), and damn good ones at times, but the focus always is on the wrestling.

In a surprising announcement, ROH now is going to be on PPV. Every two months, they will have a 2 hour show on Indemand and Dishnetwork (not directv yet). It's a good deal for them to gain some more exposure for the company. They're in no position to compete with TNA yet obviously, but it will get interesting if their PPV's do well in the first year.

keg in kc · 05-09-2007, 07:30 AM

I've really gotten into ROH in the last year or so. I'm not sure they're not the best promotion out there. Really sucks that TNA won't let them use any talent now, with the PPV announcement.

I'm really interested to see how Cabana does in WWE. I hope they let him be himself.

Although I think Matt Classic would be fun to see.

Swanman · 05-09-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I've really gotten into ROH in the last year or so. I'm not sure they're not the best promotion out there. Really sucks that TNA won't let them use any talent now, with the PPV announcement.

I'm really interested to see how Cabana does in WWE. I hope they let him be himself.

Although I think Matt Classic would be fun to see.

As far as the in-ring product, ROH is far and away the best promotion in the US. I went to ROH's show before Wrestlemania last year and went to Wrestlemania the next night and the only matches on the WM card that were anywhere close to the ROH matches were the MITB match and the Foley/Edge match.

TNA has completely lost me as a fan at this point. They've got a ton of great young talent in guys like Aries, Sabin, Shelley, Dutt, etc. but they still focus the show on WWE cast-offs and WCW retreads. They've obviously given Joe a good push (well-deserved) but he needs a long title reign right away.

It won't happen, but I'd love to see a Second City Saints reunion with Punk and Cabana. They were perfect together with Cabana being his goofy self and Punk playing the straight man. Cabana's good because he can do many different styles. His best style is obviously the comedy stuff, but he is also great with the European style and he is great in crazy brawls, as evidenced by his blood feud with Homicide in ROH.

**Baby Lee** · 05-09-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

What an insightful response........let's talk about goofy shit that you like.

I think we already did that with the World Cup.
At least the gheyhomophaggs who watch Soccer are watching a real sport instead of a mash up of Days of Our Lives and Cirque du Soleil.

Eleazar · 05-09-2007, 08:47 AM

no kidding... nothing more homoerotic than WWF... I mean E

whtgldwldr · 05-09-2007, 10:11 AM

say that to their faces...thems some big boys

**Reaper16** · 05-09-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think we already did that with the World Cup.
At least the gheyhomophaggs who watch Soccer are watching a real sport instead of a mash up of Days of Our Lives and Cirque du Soleil.

So the argument is watching sports > watching scripted television shows or dance? So any real sport is preferable to anything with characters, contrived drama, plot, etc?

vailpass · 05-09-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

So the argument is watching sports > watching scripted television shows or dance? So any real sport is preferable to anything with characters, contrived drama, plot, etc?

Exactamundo, especially where that scripted drama purports to be a sport and fools multiple inbred trailer dwellers into believing so.

**Baby Lee** · 05-09-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

So the argument is watching sports > watching scripted television shows or dance? So any real sport is preferable to anything with characters, contrived drama, plot, etc?

For a mash up of a soap opera and team gymnastics, purporting to be a sporting competition, yeah.

Mecca · 05-09-2007, 10:47 AM

So while you watch some shit like House how'd you like if someone walked in and said

"You know that's fake surgery right? How can you watch that shit?"

Same principle......

Mecca · 05-09-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Exactamundo, especially where that scripted drama purports to be a sport and fools multiple inbred trailer dwellers into believing so.

I've been to both wrestling events and football games...........the "white trash hick" element isn't that much different to be honest with you.....hell it's probably slightly bigger with football, although that's pretty much glossed over for the most part.

vailpass · 05-09-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I've been to both wrestling events and football games...........the "white trash hick" element isn't that much different to be honest with you.....hell it's probably slightly bigger with football, although that's pretty much glossed over for the most part.

You must go to different football stadiums than I do.

**Reaper16** · 05-09-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

So while you watch some shit like House how'd you like if someone walked in and said

"You know that's fake surgery right? How can you watch that shit?"

Same principle......

Hey now, House, M.D. is awesome.

It's not "some shit."

04-30-2007, 10:58 PM
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2067050	So while you watch some shit like House how'd you like if someone walked in and said "You know that's fake surgery right? How can you watch that shit?" Same principle......
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