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Old 07-02-2013, 02:42 PM  
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Top 10 Offense?

On NFL Live, they had a debate on whether the Chiefs can be a Top 10 offense, and surprisingly they both thought that we would be in the top 10 in offense. Kind of crazy
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:31 PM   #106
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I can see us having a top 10 rushing offense, but being around 20 in passing. Just not enough passing weapons. I hope I'm wrong.
Baldwin is a massive tool, uh weapon.
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Old 07-03-2013, 04:53 PM   #107
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I can see us having a top 10 rushing offense, but being around 20 in passing. Just not enough passing weapons. I hope I'm wrong.
In Reids offense, we have good enough passing weapons. He uses his RBs as a passing weapon and is pretty good at it too. Jamaal Charles is the best RB he's had to work with and that's saying a lot.
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:16 PM   #108
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I can easily name 20 better defenses than I can 20 better offenses in terms of talent.

any defense with a good DL or 2 good CBs/Safeties is automatically better than us alone.
Still waiting.

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Old 07-03-2013, 05:49 PM   #109
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Dude.
A TON of running attempts are about to become short passing plays.
I put Charles at 65 catches, easy.
I think our O is going to be built in the image of the 2004 eagles.
D Bowe being TO
And Charles being Westbrook....on steroids.
As soon as someone gives me the Decade old offense BS,
I would suggest they look at the #s.
This but without McNabb stretching the field. In other words, Alex Smith and Donovan McNabb are pretty much polar opposites when it comes to QBing. McNabb had the strongest arm in the NFL and Reid used that arm. McNabb was mobil too and could escape pressure. Alex Smith is not particularly mobile and he has a pedestrian arm at best. Sooo, this begs the question, will this offense work? Or, will Reid change it to fit Alex Smith's strengths?
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:18 PM   #110
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Mcnabb most definitely did not have the strongest arm in the NFL.

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Old 07-03-2013, 07:54 PM   #111
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I also don't think McNabb was really running a whole lot at that point in his career because then he developed more of a pocket passer. He could run, but didn't, at least no more than Alex Smith probably will this season. He only had 220 yds rushing that entire season avg almost 15 yds/gm. Hell any QB does that just by scrambling out of the pocket on broken plays throughout a 4 qtrs of play.

McNabb had a strong arm, but it wasn't the strongest, TO made Donovan go from good to great that season.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:58 PM   #112
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And Alex Smith is a lot more mobile and athletic than people seem to realize. 4.7 40 at the combine and was very successful at Utah running the Meyer spread system which utilizes a lot of QB running options.

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Old 07-03-2013, 09:25 PM   #113
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This but without McNabb stretching the field. In other words, Alex Smith and Donovan McNabb are pretty much polar opposites when it comes to QBing. McNabb had the strongest arm in the NFL and Reid used that arm. McNabb was mobil too and could escape pressure. Alex Smith is not particularly mobile and he has a pedestrian arm at best. Sooo, this begs the question, will this offense work? Or, will Reid change it to fit Alex Smith's strengths?
You're probably going to see a shit ton of 10-15 yard passes to the TE, too.

I think it will be a mix of the 2004 Eagles and 2012 Steelers. People hate "dink and dunk" offenses, but I'll take it. Big Ben did that last year and had his 2nd best year as a pro statistically.

Reid did say we'll be blowing the top off of defense's which is what will interest everyone. Alex Smith isn't terrible at throwing downfield. He's not great either. He's basically average.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:26 PM   #114
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Pretty sure that honor belonged to Brett Favre at the time.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:07 PM   #115
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In Reids offense, we have good enough passing weapons. He uses his RBs as a passing weapon and is pretty good at it too. Jamaal Charles is the best RB he's had to work with and that's saying a lot.
We have the rec RB's, maybe enough TE's we will see. We need more WR's. Unless Baldwin and Avery bust out. I definitely see us drafting WR's as a priority next season.
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You're probably going to see a shit ton of 10-15 yard passes to the TE, too.

I think it will be a mix of the 2004 Eagles and 2012 Steelers. People hate "dink and dunk" offenses, but I'll take it. Big Ben did that last year and had his 2nd best year as a pro statistically.

Reid did say we'll be blowing the top off of defense's which is what will interest everyone. Alex Smith isn't terrible at throwing downfield. He's not great either. He's basically average.
There isn't any problem with dink and dunk at all, most effective aerial offenses are in the 5 to 20 yard zone. But he's going to have to effectively throw it down the field to keep teams honest.

We're so scarred on dink and dunk because Cassel was so awful at it, but with an effective accurate qb and good route running receiving players, they're highly effective.


I'm curious/excited to see the offense this year. It's been a while since we've seen good qb play.

And on the defense, I think the talent is there to be top10 same with the offense but it will take time in the new schemes before they get there
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Mcnabb always struggled with accuracy. He wasn't a great fit in the wco early in his career because of it
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:37 PM   #119
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Mcnabb always struggled with accuracy. He wasn't a great fit in the wco early in his career because of it
that's interesting, I'm sure Any Reid would love to hear more about this...
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