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Old 03-24-2008, 10:52 AM  
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Peter King: Herm will draft Matt Ryan to buy himself another year
I still doubt the Chiefs will take Ryan, but this is an interesting rationale for why they might and this is totally in line with the piece of garbage that Herm is.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...21/mmqb/1.html

Kansas City. Boston College QB Matt Ryan. Just a hunch, though they'll have trouble passing on Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long.

Strange thing here. At the combine, Carl Peterson told me the Chiefs loved Ryan, but there was no way they could take him because of their needs elsewhere. (Offensive line, I'm guessing.) Then they sent half the front office to his workout the other day at BC. Methinks Carl does not want to be the man to pass on the guy he thinks will be a franchise player. The other thing this does is buy coach Herman Edwards one more year of rebuilding. Even if the Chiefs go 5-11 this year, they couldn't whack Edwards until after they got a really good look at Ryan.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:18 PM   #106
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Dorsey/J. Long/Ellis/C. Long/Ryan We're guaranteed one of these players, so I won't be crushed as long as we don't draft outside of these perameters.
Exactly, no reaches please!
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:20 PM   #107
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Cleveland spent a 100 million dollars in Olineman outside of Thomas, it wasn't just him, they had been working on that offense and that line for several years. Also none of these linemen are the same type of prospects Thomas was.
Really? Jake Long was the Big Ten Offensive lineman of the year the last 2 seasons (i.e. when Thomas was a senior). He isn't of Thomas's caliber?

Hey, I'm OK drafting Ryan. I'm not trying to diss him. But if it's between Long and Ryan, I gotta think it's a no-brainer.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:23 PM   #108
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As a pass blocker Long doesn't sniff Thomas. Thomas has much better feet and has that "finesse" in his game it requires to be a great pass blocker. Long is a better run blocker and much more of a mauler which makes him not as good of a pass blocker......at LT I think pass blocking is much more important.

The point is Jake Long isn't going to transform the line and with the amount of money you pay a guy at 5 he better be a pro bowl level player and there are some serious questions if he's even at LT at the NFL level.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:26 PM   #109
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If that's true, then I don't mind KC picking Ryan.

Honestly, I don't really know much about the guy. I saw a few of his games and read scouting reports and to be quite honest he just never really stood out as a top 5 prospect.
Ive seen Ryan described by a few as "Matt Hasselbeck" like.

Now, Hasselbeck is hardley Elway or Marino, but wouldnt anyone here want a potential Hasselback for the next 10-12 years??
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:29 PM   #110
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Ive seen Ryan described by a few as "Matt Hasselbeck" like.

Now, Hasselbeck is hardley Elway or Marino, but wouldnt anyone here want a potential Hasselback for the next 10-12 years??
He reminds me of Roethlisberger in his size and his moving ability in the pocket, I don't think his arm is quite that good though. Hasselbeck probably isn't a bad comparison, I'd say he's a bit of a mix between those 2 guys.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:48 PM   #111
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He reminds me of Roethlisberger in his size and his moving ability in the pocket, I don't think his arm is quite that good though. Hasselbeck probably isn't a bad comparison, I'd say he's a bit of a mix between those 2 guys.
He reminds me of Alex Smith, only not as good a prospect, and 22 more int's his final two college seasons.
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Alex Smith is a ridiculously bad comparison, Smith came out of the gimmicky spread option offense, Ryan comes from a pro style offense.

Smith put up stats in it, so does Chase Daniel you think he's an NFL QB?
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:55 PM   #113
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Alex Smith is a ridiculously bad comparison, Smith came out of the gimmicky spread option offense, Ryan comes from a pro style offense.

Smith put up stats in it, so does Chase Daniel you think he's an NFL QB?
No I think Alex was the product of a bad QB class. As Matt will soon be.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:57 PM   #114
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No I think Alex was the product of a bad QB class. As Matt will soon be.
Why would a bad QB class hurt a QB prospect's chances?
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No I think Alex was the product of a bad QB class. As Matt will soon be.
this makes no sense at all.
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He played with a very bad supporting cast so he frequently had to make very difficult throws and fit it in. He was rarely throwing to wide open players. I consider this an advantage over the QB's who get to complete easy passes to guys running free.
Isn't that the same we heard about Brodie Croyle? It was the reason he got injurred, his supporting cast was so bad?
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No I think Alex was the product of a bad QB class.
Jason Campbell is developing. Aaron Rodgers i think will be good. In fact, its too bad we passed on him at the time. Hindsights 20/20.
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Why would a bad QB class hurt a QB prospect's chances?
What I think he is saying is that draft gurus are overvaluing Ryan because he is a QB. With a weak class he is moving to the top of the class by default. People automatically want to move the top QB up in the top 10.
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I'm trying to say that Alex should have never beeen drafted that high, but because the QB class was weak, the best of the bunch was elevated above the level that he would be if he played any other position. The same is happening with Ryan, and he will eventually be a product of that.
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Jason Campbell is developing. Aaron Rodgers i think will be good. In fact, its too bad we passed on him at the time. Hindsights 20/20.
You got the Rodgers part right, and I would have taken him before Smith anyday.
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