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09-25-2013, 05:26 PM | #106 |
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Yost cost the Royals way, way more than 2 games this season.
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09-25-2013, 05:34 PM | #107 | |
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If Francouer is chicken shit, replace him with Lough sooner. No one could possibly be worse. If Getz/Johnson are chicken shit, give Giavotella or Falu a chance (or trade for somebody sooner than they traded for Bonafacio). For some reason, Giavotella and Falu get about 6 at-bats per year to prove themselves, and if they do nothing, they go back to the minors. Yet guys like Getz fail for years and years and keep getting playing time. If Crow/Herrera are chicken shit in clutch situations, LET LOUIS COLEMAN PITCH. WHY THE HELL DOES LOUIS COLEMAN NEVER PITCH? If Davies is chicken shit, replace him with Duffy/Ventura earlier in the year. This is the single most baffling move of the season to me, and the one that in the long run cost the Royals the most. If it's June or July and you see Davies sitting there with a 5.50 ERA, try someone else. Davies lost way too many games that could have been won with a decent starter, and that was ultimately the biggest failure this season. If Duffy or Ventura joins the rotation in June, I think we're looking at a playoff team here. |
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09-25-2013, 06:19 PM | #108 |
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09-25-2013, 06:21 PM | #109 |
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Now we need to fire DM before he does something stupid like re-sign Yost.
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09-25-2013, 06:40 PM | #110 |
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Nobody can possibly ascertain what Yost "cost" us this year. But we have a good model to estimate what Dos Fatboys (Butler and Moose in case that was not obvious) cost us by dropping their HR total from 49 to 25 this year. 4 full wins.
The math is simple: HR are worth 1.7 runs. 24 more HR would've equaled 41 additional runs. Fangraphs pegs 1 WAR at 9.4 runs this season. Divide the total and you see the Slobs singlehandedly ruined this team and knocked us out of a WC tie. http://www.camdencrazies.com/2011-ar...ar-primer.html |
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09-25-2013, 06:43 PM | #111 |
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I highly doubt they fire him. Looks like they will win 85-86 games. Isn't that our best record in 20+ years?
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09-25-2013, 07:11 PM | #112 |
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Yeah, let's keep the guy. He's a huge reason why we will miss out on the playoffs this year...but hey we finally will finish above .500!!!
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09-25-2013, 07:35 PM | #113 |
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http://www.kansascity.com/2013/09/25...e-says-he.html
Royals G.M. Dayton Moore says he wants to retain manager Ned Yost BY BOB DUTTON The Kansas City Star SEATTLE — While negotiations remain on the horizon, Royals general manager Dayton Moore left no doubt Wednesday afternoon that he wants to retain Ned Yost as the club’s manager. While negotiations remain on the horizon, Royals general manager Dayton Moore left no doubt Wednesday afternoon that he wants to retain Ned Yost (right) as the club’s manager. “… Ned has done a terrific job, and I definitely want him back,” Moore said. “We’ll sit down and talk about it.” “Ned and I made an advance decision a month or so ago that anything we would discuss would be after the season, and we’ve held to that,” Moore said. “But Ned has done a terrific job, and I definitely want him back. We’ll sit down and talk about it. Contractually, Ned’s up, and we’re going to work together” to negotiate a new deal. “It goes without saying that I want him back.” Moore’s comments came before Wednesday’s game against the Seattle Mariners at Safeco Field. The Royals entered that game trailing Cleveland by four games, with five games left, in the race for the final American League wild-card spot. Negotiations between Moore and Yost could commence this weekend in Chicago if and when the Royals are mathematically eliminated from postseason contention. “Right now, mathematically, we’re still in this,” Moore said. “A lot of things have to fall our way, but we’ll discuss it at the appropriate time. You certainly want to have it settled as soon as you can.” Yost confirmed on several occasions that he wants to return, but industry sources indicate he might have opportunities to manage elsewhere if he fails to reach a new agreement with the Royals. Moore’s support is a crucial factor. Royals owner David Glass said last week the decision on whether to retain Yost rests solely with Moore. “Whatever happens with Ned is up to Dayton,” Glass said. “That’s his call. I like them both. I think both of them are doing a really good job.” Moore’s contract runs through 2014, which could be a hurdle in talks to retain Yost. It’s rare that a manager’s contract extends for a longer period than the general manager. Glass indicated an extension for Moore is possible. “We’re all in this together,” Glass said. “Dayton is a part of the family. I think he’s done a really good job. I think Ned has done a good job.” Yost, 59, served as Milwaukee’s manager from 2002-08 and replaced Trey Hillman as Royals manager on May 13, 2010 with a contract that initially lasted only through that season. A two-year extension, announced July 31, 2010, included a club option for 2013. The Royals exercised that option on Feb. 14, 2012. |
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09-25-2013, 07:39 PM | #114 | |
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09-25-2013, 08:56 PM | #115 | |
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09-25-2013, 09:34 PM | #116 |
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Amazing that "true fans" exist in the Royals world as well. Yost is horrible. I'm not really aware of a serious baseball analyst that thinks Yost is even a league average manager. But keep believing he has the magic or something for this year's achievement, which was obviously about starting pitching, and all-world bullpen and an all-world defense.
Any turn-around after May was orchestrated by a combination of a few players starting to do the right things offensively and the influence that Brett had with several of those players. Even Yost himself said Brett came and got their heads right about winning and having a short memory. Really Ned? I thought that was YOUR job. Ned is just a nice encourager...but is lost for answers when a team needs jerked out of a funk - he'll always be that way. He doesn't have "it". If a team is humming and doesn't hit a snag, he's your next Jim Frey. If a team slumps, you want Dick Howser. Ned Yost is far more a Jim Frey than a Dick Howser. Hell, he's not even a Hal McRae or Buddy Bell. He's better than Trey Hillman and Tony Muser and thats' about it.
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09-25-2013, 09:37 PM | #117 |
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You obviously have repressed the Buddy Bell years. When your manager says "never say it can't get worse", you know you hired the wrong guy.
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09-25-2013, 09:39 PM | #118 |
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I don't think they'll fire him either. They are gelling really. But they need a few guys that can swing.
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09-25-2013, 09:40 PM | #119 |
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Buddy Bell was terrible. Ned Yost is worse because he's been incompetent with a good a decent team. We have no idea how bad or close to average bell might have been with a decent team.
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Then again Clinkscale always hates everything so who knows if that was a real opinion. Are there better managers than Yost? Of course. Would they come to KC...? errrr, not so sure |
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