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Old 08-16-2008, 07:23 PM  
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Croyle better have a good game in Miami

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Old 08-16-2008, 09:57 PM   #106
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Now you would. Would you have taken him when he was 1-6 with 48% completions and 6 tds/9 ints?
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Old 08-16-2008, 09:59 PM   #107
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Yes.
Yet, you won't give Croyle that long.

If he plays at the same level Eli did in his third year, you'll be calling for his head.

It just show tha patience is not a virtue among Chiefs fans in QB development.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:00 PM   #108
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Yes.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:01 PM   #109
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Yet, you won't give Croyle that long.

If he plays at the same level Eli did in his third year, you'll be calling for his head.

It just show tha patience is not a virtue among Chiefs fans in QB development.
True.

And honestly, we're pretty new at it.

Give the guy a chance.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:03 PM   #110
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:03 PM   #111
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Yes.

Really, compare the stat lines between Eli and Brodie on their first year starting then....


Brodie -
W/L 0-6 :
Passing 127/224 for 56.7% completions for 1227 yards
TD/INT - 6/6
QB Rating - 69.9


Eli -

W/L - 1/6
Passing - 95/197 for 48.2% completions for 1043 yards
TD/INT 6/9
QB Rating - 55.4



How could anyone want Eli but not be willing to at least give Brodie a chance when Brodie was better in every catagory except for 1 win is beyond me.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:04 PM   #112
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True.

And honestly, we're pretty new at it.

Give the guy a chance.
It's funny, it took people 15 years or more to finally realize Carl at GM was a problem.

Marty had 10 years at HC, and people still think he was the answer.

But Croyle has had all of 6 starts at QB, and people are ready to throw him under the bus.

It's really kind of mind boggling.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:05 PM   #113
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So far, I don't see Rothlisberger as more than a game manager who occasionally has big games.

And he was outplayed by Hasselback in their SB.
Roethlisberger was the definition of a game manager. I don't think he is now... but it took him a couple years to reach that point. His first couple years... that team was 1st in rushing attempts and dead last in passing attempts. They used their rushing attack and offensive line to protect him, and he just didn't have to throw the game away.

To his credit, the playoffs came around that 2nd year... and then when everybody was expecting Steeler ball, Cowher turned him loose a bit, and passed to open up the run to finish them off.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:06 PM   #114
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I'm trying to give the guy a chance. It's hard lol.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:06 PM   #115
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Yet, you won't give Croyle that long.

If he plays at the same level Eli did in his third year, you'll be calling for his head.

It just show tha patience is not a virtue among Chiefs fans in QB development.
Shoot i've already seen people calling Tank, Turk, and Pollard busts on here as well. It isn't just QB's.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:07 PM   #116
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Yes.
So, maybe you watch the Giants when you aren't watching the Chiefs, maybe you're a retired QB coach, or maybe you're FoS...... but, in the past few years Eli has showed me no more potential than Croyle did last year.

For what, 4 years, people have been asking "when will he stop making stupid decisions?" and "when will he start playing like he was drafted in the first round?".... and he only answered the first question during the playoffs last year.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:10 PM   #117
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Really, compare the stat lines between Eli and Brodie on their first year starting then....


Brodie -
W/L 0-6 :
Passing 127/224 for 56.7% completions for 1227 yards
TD/INT - 6/6
QB Rating - 69.9


Eli -

W/L - 1/6
Passing - 95/197 for 48.2% completions for 1043 yards
TD/INT 6/9
QB Rating - 55.4



How could anyone want Eli but not be willing to at least give Brodie a chance when Brodie was better in every catagory except for 1 win is beyond me.



Bumping to make sure VT sees this as thanks to a hickup, it got posted early and then down the list by the time I got it edited.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:12 PM   #118
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Bumping to make sure VT sees this as thanks to a hickup, it got posted early and then down the list by the time I got it edited.
I have a feeling that it won't make a bit of difference.
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Old 08-16-2008, 10:14 PM   #119
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Bumping to make sure VT sees this as thanks to a hickup, it got posted early and then down the list by the time I got it edited.
I posted the same stats and they were ignored, so I'm thinking it won't make a difference.
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Even if Croyle has "it", like milkman stated, it won't happen here, not under Carl or the fans.
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