Terrell Pryor and Others Disciplined by NCAA

[Crush]

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Five Ohio State players sanctioned

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Five Ohio State football players, including quarterback Terrell Pryor, must sit out the first five games of the 2011 season for accepting improper benefits, the NCAA ruled Thursday.

A sixth football student-athlete must sit out the first game in 2011 for receiving discounted services in violation of NCAA rules.

All of the players be eligible for the Jan. 4 Sugar Bowl, however.

Five players were found to have sold awards, gifts and university apparel, plus receiving improper benefits in 2009. In addition to missing five games next season, Pryor, Mike Adams, Daniel Herron, Devier Posey and Solomon Thomas must repay money and benefits ranging in value from $1,000 to $2,500. The repayments must be made to a charity.

Jordan Whiting must sit out the first game next year and pay $150 to a charity for the value of services that were discounted because of his status as a student-athlete.

The NCAA announced the suspensions on Thursday, shortly before Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith and coach Jim Tressel were to meet with reporters to discuss the university's investigation of players trading autographs for tattoos.

Adams must repay $1,000 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring and Herron must repay $1,150 for selling his football jersey, pants and shoes for $1,000 and receiving discounted services worth $150.

Posey must repay $1,250 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,200 and receiving discounted services worth $50, while Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring, a 2009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and his 2008 Gold Pants, a gift from the university.

Solomon must repay $1,505 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,000, his 2008 Gold Pants for $350 and receiving discounted services worth $155.

"These are significant penalties based on findings and information provided by the university," Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs, said in a statement released by the NCAA.

The players are eligibile for the bowl game because the NCAA determined they did not receive adequate rules education during the time period the violations occurred, Lennon said.

"We were not as explicit with our student-athlete education as we should have been in the 2007-08 and 2008-09 academic years regarding the sale of apparel, awards and gifts issued by the athletics department," Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said in a statement. "We began to significantly improve our education in November of 2009 to address these issues. After going through this experience, we will further enhance our education for all our student-athletes as we move forward."

Information from The Associated Press is included in this report.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And oh by the way, can I point out... selling a championship ring, to me, is a shameless act of individualism. A true team player would never sell a team award.

Please. If you're college student in need of money you would.

Direct you Ohio St. hate elsewhere.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BCD

Can Pryor block and catch? He's huge. I bet he'd make a good TE.

He would be a project at QB.

You're not gonna find a single Buckeye fun who thinks he'll make a good NFL QB.

I dont' know if he can block and catch. But he is an enormous target. Tall and big and very difficult to take down, and he's a very smooth runner. I really think he has potential to be a Boldin type receiver. I think his ability as a Quarterback would also make him a natural at understanding how to break down a defense.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Come on, man. Of COURSE Gene Smith is going to do that. It's a smart statement for him to make--it's a way to save face for the school while making them still sound remoreseful.

The guys were accepting gifts (tattoos) and selling stuff given to them from Ohio State for $'s. They know they can't have jobs. They know they can't sell autographs, which means they should be well aware they can't sell championship rings and awards. At some point, players have to accept responsibility for bad decisions. These guys are well-versed in the fact that they're not allowed to have jobs or get stuff for free. There is no way they didn't know that what they were doing was wrong.

And oh by the way, can I point out... selling a championship ring, to me, is a shameless act of individualism. A true team player would never sell a team award.

Umm Gene Smith didn't need to say anything, Tressel made no shortcomings about he, he handled it well. What would anything anyone says change? These are adults, they cannot be monitored every hour of every day, this is why these things happen.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BCD

Please. If you're college student in need of money you would.

Direct you Ohio St. hate elsewhere.

I've said pretty clearly that I'm an Ohio State fan. I'm not going to defend idiots. Accepting gifts from the school where there is some ambiguity of the rules is one thing. I don't have a huge problem with that because the rule is so inconsistently enforced. I have a huge problem with jeopardizing your career and the team because of something they clearly, clearly knew was wrong, regardless of what Gene Smith says.

It was stupid. It was wrong. They should be punished and quite frankly shouldn't be allowed to play in the bowl game.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Not true. See above.

Heh, actually for me its below.

I dont see where he said he thinks Pryor would be a good NFL QB.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I did read what you wrote.

Everything it takes? Ha. Yeah, except accuracy, the ability to read good defenses, and the ability to step up consistently in big games. Apart from that, yes... he does play outstanding against bad defenses and he does play good very inconsistently against great defenses.

Do you have short term memory?? We went to (backed into) a National Championship with Todd Boeckman, Pryor is three times as good as Boeckman, so to say he couldn't get us to a National Championship is of epic tard proportions. We have a very good team, we don't need Peyton Manning at QB.

Obviously we have a HATER in Lincoln Park.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by BCD

Please. If you're college student in need of money you would.

Direct you Ohio St. hate elsewhere.

No way he is a Buckeye fan, I don't care what he says.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC

Umm Gene Smith didn't need to say anything, Tressel made no shortcomings about he, he handled it well. What would anything anyone says change? These are adults, they cannot be monitored every hour of every day, this is why these things happen.

Gene Smith absolutely needs to say something because any form of denial would suggest that the program condones this type of thing. The program needs to save face. Ohio State is a program that has very consistently self-reported violations. I'm sure they don't run a clean program, but comparative to most NCAA teams, they seem to. I believe a few years ago, they reported that they gave Anthony Gonzalez some kind of free OSU BBall tickets as a reward for academic merit.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I've said pretty clearly that I'm an Ohio State fan. I'm not going to defend idiots. Accepting gifts from the school where there is some ambiguity of the rules is one thing. I don't have a huge problem with that because the rule is so inconsistently enforced. I have a huge problem with jeopardizing your career and the team because of something they clearly, clearly knew was wrong, regardless of what Gene Smith says.

It was stupid. It was wrong. They should be punished and quite frankly shouldn't be allowed to play in the bowl game.

Stupid for punishing ANY student athletes for this kind of shit.

As I said earlier in this thread, I dont give a shit how they get money, as long as the University isnt paying them and its not illegal. I dont even care if Boosters pay them. I just dont care.

**** the NCAA.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BCD

Heh, actually for me its below.

I dont see where he said he thinks Pryor would be a good NFL QB.

Okay, I misread that.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC

Do you have short term memory?? We went to (backed into) a National Championship with Todd Boeckman, Pryor is three times as good as Boeckman, so to say he couldn't get us to a National Championship is of epic tard proportions. We have a very good team, we don't need Peyton Manning at QB.

Obviously we have a HATER in Lincoln Park.

The Buckeyes made the championship game loaded with talent. Next season, they're going to lose some very good players regardless of whether Pryor is playing or not. And even if they had good talent, I have no faith in the guy to win big games. Especially next year when they get Nebraska, Michigan State, and Wisconsin. I see next year as a rebuild year. Ohio State is always going to be good enough for a 2-3 loss season at worst. And Pryor could have gotten them there. But he's not going to lead the team to a BCS title next year.

I'm more excited for Braxton Miller as a freshman than I am for Pryor as a senior. Whether that happens next year of the year after.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Buckeyes made the championship game loaded with talent. Next season, they're going to lose some very good players regardless of whether Pryor is playing or not. And even if they had good talent, I have no faith in the guy to win big games. Especially next year when they get Nebraska, Michigan State, and Wisconsin. I see next year as a rebuild year. Ohio State is always going to be good enough for a 2-3 loss season at worst. And Pryor could have gotten them there. But he's not going to lead the team to a BCS title next year. I'm more excited for Braxton Miller as a freshman than I am for Pryor as a senior. Whether that happens next year of the year after.

Ok so you do agree with me?? And obviously he wont lead them to a NC because he's out for five games . I don't believe they will waste a year of elgibility for Braxton for 5 games, this IS terrelle Pryor's team whether you like him or not.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Buckeyes made the championship game loaded with talent. Next season, they're going to lose some very good players regardless of whether Pryor is playing or not. And even if they had good talent, I have no faith in the guy to win big games. Especially next year when they get Nebraska, Michigan State, and Wisconsin. I see next year as a rebuild year. Ohio State is always going to be good enough for a 2-3 loss season at worst. And Pryor could have gotten them there. But he's not going to lead the team to a BCS title next year.

I'm more excited for Braxton Miller as a freshman than I am for Pryor as a senior. Whether that happens next year of the year after.

Ok are you seriously a Buckeye fan??? You do realize the NC game against LSU was in our "Rebuild" year because of all the talent we lost??? We were not that talented that year.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC

Ok are you seriously a Buckeye fan??? You do realize the NC game against LSU was in our "Rebuild" year because of all the talent we lost??? We were not that talented that year.

Yes, I do. Thank you for reminding me. They had a pattycake schedule that year and based on the way they got waxed, I don't think they belonged there (ironically, I thought the team that got creamed against Florida was a much better team).

And stop this bullshit about "are you a fan"? That's the most obnoxious thing ever? You don't have to drink the kool-aid 24/7 to be a fan.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yes, I do. Thank you for reminding me. They had a pattycake schedule that year and based on the way they got waxed, I don't think they belonged there (ironically, I thought the team that got creamed against Florida was a much better team).

And stop this bullshit about "are you a fan"? That's the most obnoxious thing ever? You don't have to drink the kool-aid 24/7 to be a fan.

Well I can't help it, even this post makes it hard for me to believe you are a Buckeye fan. You think the team that got beat by Florida was better? Umm it wasn't even a thought in any Buckeye fans mind, that was one of the most talented Buckeye Teams ever.

The reason it's hard for me to believe you are a fan is because most of your posts are illogical and pretty dumb. It's like you are trying to guess about stuff that you don't know, hence my doubt of your following. I didn't say you have to drink any kool-aid to be a fan, but if you're going to start posting some dumb stuff about my favorite team and you really don't know what you're talking about I will call you on it.

There is a difference between Ohiobronco and I having a dispute, because he knows his stuff about the Buckeyes. Most of your posts just aren't smart, my last point, our schedule wasn't that patsy, we beat a ranked Purdue, Penn State, and a good Michigan team that year, but I digress.