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Chiefs Pantalones · 03-08-2007, 12:50 AM

Redskins | Team still working on deal with Denver
Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:33:25 -0800

Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins and Denver Broncos are actively trying to work out a deal, with the Broncos seeking the No. 6 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft and the Redskins looking to acquire CB Dre' Bly. The Broncos tried to offer LB Al Wilson and a package of draft picks for the Redskins' high draft pick, but the deal fell through when the Redskins opted to sign LB London Fletcher-Baker instead of trading for Wilson. Also, the Redskins have offered CB Shawn Springs in a deal for Bly, but the Broncos are not willing to give the Redskins cap relief for the $7.5 million charge they would receive by trading Springs. With both teams still coveting their targets, and with Bly still reportedly looking to play in Washington, it is still possible for some kind of swap involving Bly and the Redskins' first-round pick to happen before the draft.

They would get the better end of the deal, IMO, if they pull this off.

MOhillbilly · 03-08-2007, 11:58 AM

shawn springs got real old during last offseason. carlos rogers isnt a consistant man coverage guy.
dre bly most likely doesnt want to get put on an island next to the best man coverage cb in the nfl and watch his #s slip.

imo noway would it be worth it for either team to pull the trigger on a deal where you a0 take a cap hit b0give up a pick-again-.

**dirk digler** · 03-08-2007, 11:58 AM

To be fair the Broncos off-season hasn't exactly been a rousing success. 3 of your transactions haven't gone exactly according to plan.

htismaqe · 03-08-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Of course you know your team better than I do so I'll take your word that those sgnings were significant.

Do you think KC needs to do anything to address the WR situation, especially now that they no longer have such a dominant line and might need to show a passing game in order to keep teams from stacking the box against LJ?

Signing McIntosh was an upgrade to Black. He's not a top-notch LT, but he can man the position well enough to get by.

That reduces the need to get a starting LT via the draft. We can get a project OT with upside later - someone like Tony Ugoh for instance.

That allows us to concentrate on WR's in the 1st and/or 2nd round, and this draft is deep at WR.

FWIW, the Nap Harris signing does the EXACT same - upgrade over Mitchell, allows us to devalue MLB in the draft.

Steve Sewell · 03-08-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If it was so obvious, why DID you say it?

Oh yeah, GoSteve...

People call a spade a spade all the time...

htismaqe · 03-08-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

People call a spade a spade all the time...

Especially ignorant people...

vailpass · 03-08-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

To be fair the Broncos off-season hasn't exactly been a rousing success. 3 of your transactions haven't gone exactly according to plan.

Agreed. If they had signed Kerney I would call the off-season a success. They have to get some DL help.

MOhillbilly · 03-08-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Agreed. If they had signed Kerney I would call the off-season a success. They have to get some DL help.

why? he aint done shit in 2 years.

vailpass · 03-08-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Signing McIntosh was an upgrade to Black. He's not a top-notch LT, but he can man the position well enough to get by.

That reduces the need to get a starting LT via the draft. We can get a project OT with upside later - someone like Tony Ugoh for instance.

That allows us to concentrate on WR's in the 1st and/or 2nd round, and this draft is deep at WR.

FWIW, the Nap Harris signing does the EXACT same - upgrade over Mitchell, allows us to devalue MLB in the draft.

McIntosh couldn't have cracked your line-up three years ago but now that you put it like that it makes sense.
I'm gonna miss Jordan "Matador" Black.

Are they going to keep Mitchell? IIRC a lot of people were high on him not too long ago? Did the switch to the Tampa 2 spell the end for him?

I know which WR I'd want in the draft if I could pick the first one.....

**dirk digler** · 03-08-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Agreed. If they had signed Kerney I would call the off-season a success. They have to get some DL help.

So do we I think we only have 2 DL under contract and I am pretty sure Sims is going to get cut soon enough

Steve Sewell · 03-08-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The fact is, it IS over-the-top, considering you've known the source for almost 8 years.

But if you want to make a de facto argument instead of realizing the GoSteve just lacks comprehension skills, go ahead.

TJ might have known you for 8 years, but I don't know you from Adam.

Assuming that everyone SHOULD know who you are because you have been here forever is the EXACT reason for my post about your 57,000 post e-peen.

vailpass · 03-08-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

why? he aint done shit in 2 years.

Cuz the Bronco DEs haven't done shit in 5 years. I'm willing to take a shot at this point.

Steve Sewell · 03-08-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Especially ignorant people...

Why would an ignorant person be more likely to call someone out for what they really are?

chagrin · 03-08-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Cuz the Bronco DEs haven't done shit in 5 years. I'm willing to take a shot at this point.

I like Kerney, he got firgured out in Atlanta after his first 2 years and their D never made the adjustment or moves to get the double team off of him. I'd be willing to bet Denver knows what to do with him.

Steve Sewell · 03-08-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Signing McIntosh was an upgrade to Black. He's not a top-notch LT, but he can man the position well enough to get by.

That reduces the need to get a starting LT via the draft. We can get a project OT with upside later - someone like Tony Ugoh for instance.

That allows us to concentrate on WR's in the 1st and/or 2nd round, and this draft is deep at WR.

FWIW, the Nap Harris signing does the EXACT same - upgrade over Mitchell, allows us to devalue MLB in the draft.

Are you talking about RT...isn't Turley your LT?

htismaqe · 03-08-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

McIntosh couldn't have cracked your line-up three years ago but now that you put it like that it makes sense.
I'm gonna miss Jordan "Matador" Black.

Are they going to keep Mitchell? IIRC a lot of people were high on him not too long ago? Did the switch to the Tampa 2 spell the end for him?

I know which WR I'd want in the draft if I could pick the first one.....

That can't keep Mitchell, he's already gone.

If anything, they could bring him back.

I do think he struggled with the Cover 2.

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