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Old 04-04-2013, 06:20 PM   #1
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Thats why I've said take the QB. Highest upside and reward.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:23 PM   #2
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:49 PM   #3
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:42 PM   #4
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With how candid Dorsey comes across in the article, throwing around words like shit and crap, the comment about offensive scheme really stuck out for me too.

Either that's some DAMN good poker or he's genuinely not opposed to taking the QB, letting him sit, and doing what he thinks is "best for your organization, present and future."
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:45 PM   #5
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"we were lucky enough to get Aaron Rodgers (in Green Bay). We were questioned about that, but we stood patiently for three years with him. We can stand patiently another three if we have to."

That's an interesting way to phrase that comment.

It could absolutely mean they have 1a) trade down for maximum compensation 1b) draft Geno if they can't trade out of the top spot.
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"we were lucky enough to get Aaron Rodgers (in Green Bay). We were questioned about that, but we stood patiently for three years with him. We can stand patiently another three if we have to."

That's an interesting way to phrase that comment.

It could absolutely mean they have 1a) trade down for maximum compensation 1b) draft Geno if they can't trade out of the top spot.
Or it could mean that if they see enough promise in a guy they take in the later rounds, he could ride the bench for a few years before realizing his full potential.

I really think the most likely meaning of anything that any GM says during this pre-draft period is probably nothing. I think most of their public statements are meaningless. The big thing that might distinguish one GM from another is how willing they are to tell an outright lie as opposed to just misleading without technically lying. We have very little to gauge John Dorsey with in that regard.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:05 PM   #7
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Or it could mean that if they see enough promise in a guy they take in the later rounds, he could ride the bench for a few years before realizing his full potential.

I really think the most likely meaning of anything that any GM says during this pre-draft period is probably nothing. I think most of their public statements are meaningless. The big thing that might distinguish one GM from another is how willing they are to tell an outright lie as opposed to just misleading without technically lying. We have very little to gauge John Dorsey with in that regard.
In the later rounds? Aaron Rodgers wasn't taken in the later rounds...
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In the later rounds? Aaron Rodgers wasn't taken in the later rounds...
Yeah, I guess he could have meant that he wants to trade down to 1.24 and if the best QB in the draft falls to him there, he'll pick him, sit him on the bench behind his incumbent hall of famer and then turn the keys over to him 3 years down the road, but I didn't take him quite as literally as you apparently do.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:55 PM   #9
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You don't draft a QB with the #1 pick of the entire draft so he can ride the bench. In fact, that is very much NOT taking the BPA if he has to hold a clipboard. BPA is a guy who you can plug in and get immediate results with at a high level.

I really do hope kc drafts Geno with the #1 pick. You think Blackledge was a fiasco, that's nothing compared to taking a QB with the 1.1 pick of an entire draft, having him sit behind a mediocre Alex Smith for 2 years (because he can't beat Smith out like Kaepernick did) and then when he finally does start, he ends up being no better or worse then the journeyman QB he just replaced.
Who is that guy?

An olb would sit
An OT would be a RT
A DL is gonna take a couple years to produce

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Yeah, I guess he could have meant that he wants to trade down to 1.24 and if the best QB in the draft falls to him there, he'll pick him, sit him on the bench behind his incumbent hall of famer and then turn the keys over to him 3 years down the road, but I didn't take him quite as literally as you apparently do.
I took that as him talking about what he would do if he didn't get an offer worth moving down for and had to pick at 1...what made you think he was talking about moving down?
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Yeah, I guess he could have meant that he wants to trade down to 1.24 and if the best QB in the draft falls to him there, he'll pick him, sit him on the bench behind his incumbent hall of famer and then turn the keys over to him 3 years down the road, but I didn't take him quite as literally as you apparently do.
He's saying if the best guy has to ride the pine for 3 years to become the great player they think he will be will make that pick.

Sounds like he drafts a player for their career, not for their rookie season.
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"we were lucky enough to get Aaron Rodgers (in Green Bay). We were questioned about that, but we stood patiently for three years with him. We can stand patiently another three if we have to."

That's an interesting way to phrase that comment.

It could absolutely mean they have 1a) trade down for maximum compensation 1b) draft Geno if they can't trade out of the top spot.
Seems like a poker face to me. Like a team or two didn't agree with how much we wanted in return for that pick, so he's basically slapping them in the face saying "We can play this game all day if we want." Hell, maybe back in the day the Green Bay Packers faced an offer to trade into their spot so a later team could take Rodgers, but it wasn't enough in their minds and they lucked out.
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"we were lucky enough to get Aaron Rodgers (in Green Bay). We were questioned about that, but we stood patiently for three years with him. We can stand patiently another three if we have to."

That's an interesting way to phrase that comment.

It could absolutely mean they have 1a) trade down for maximum compensation 1b) draft Geno if they can't trade out of the top spot.
They don't have to. Our HC just got the QB he's had wood for for years.

I can't wait until the 25th when the Geno crowd will finally just let it go.
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They don't have to. Our HC just got the QB he's had wood for for years.

I can't wait until the 25th when the Geno crowd will finally just let it go.
Ok yes we did get A Smith. But were gonna draft him and hes gonna be the next Aaron Rodgers.
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Ok yes we did get A Smith. But were gonna draft him and hes gonna be the next Aaron Rodgers.
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