Is Grossman the worst QB to ever start the Super Bowl? - Page 8

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-21-2007, 10:55 PM

I really can't think of anyone worse...who QB'ed the LA Rams against the Steelers? Even Kerry Collins was better than Grossman.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-22-2007, 12:11 AM

Stan Humphries, Jim Plunkett, and Trent Dilfer all come to mind.

Hootie · 01-22-2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

You put anyone in the league behind that center and the Bears are in the same place.

You have no idea if this is true or not. But, we do know, Rex Grossman is the starting QB in the Super Bowl in two weeks.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-22-2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

You must be smarter than all of the scouts and experts who had his dumbass going in the first round.

I mean, he's such an idiot and is so unintelligent, he shouldn't have been drafted at all, right?!?!

Appeal to authority is still a fallacy.

Grossman is a MORON. He can't read a defense, he can't account for pressure, he's inaccurate, and he has no confidence in himself as soon as something goes wrong.

If scouts knew this then, he'd have dropped like a rock...

Better than Kyle Orton does not = good. He's not even the best QB on their roster.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-22-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

You have no idea if this is true or not. But, we do know, Rex Grossman is the starting QB in the Super Bowl in two weeks.

Yeah, and if I'm Lovie Smith and I pencil in George Halas' corpse he becomes the starting QB...it doesn't mean that he'd be or is a good QB.

Hootie · 01-22-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Appeal to authority is still a fallacy.

Grossman is a MORON. He can't read a defense, he can't account for pressure, he's inaccurate, and he has no confidence in himself as soon as something goes wrong.

If scouts knew this then, he'd have dropped like a rock...

Better than Kyle Orton does not = good. He's not even the best QB on their roster.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

You can tell me all you want that you watched a lot of Bears game this year, I honestly doubt you have.

I have watched them all, and I can tell you, Grossman played well more times than he played poor.

And, I can also tell you...when Grossman did something TOTALLY stupid, he often bounced back and made something happen a drive or two later...

All QB's make mistakes. Grossman made more than he had to...but Green had as many, if not more, turnovers per game than Grossman...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-22-2007, 12:19 AM

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Grossman had better numbers than Trent Green this year.

Grossman can throw the deep ball, and hit his RB in the flats, too...

Shit, we'd probably be a playoff team with Grossman as our QB. Grossman > Green.

I think just about every QB in the league other than Walter was better than Green this year.

Green's Completion % 61.1 Grossman 54.6

TD/INT Ratio 7/9, 23/20

Rating 74.1 73.6

So, in two of the three most important QB cats, Green beats out Grossman, despite being the 2nd worst QB in the league, in your opinion, even finishing with a higher rating....and the one Category that Grossman did beat him in, he ended up nearly leading the fucking league in picks.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-22-2007, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

You have no idea what you're talking about.

You can tell me all you want that you watched a lot of Bears game this year, I honestly doubt you have.

I have watched them all, and I can tell you, Grossman played well more times than he played poor.

And, I can also tell you...when Grossman did something TOTALLY stupid, he often bounced back and made something happen a drive or two later...

All QB's make mistakes. Grossman made more than he had to...but Green had as many, if not more, turnovers per game than Grossman...

Green, 8 games 12 Turnovers

Grossman 16 games, 25 Turnovers

You're wrong again, talking about of your ass again, making an ass out of yourself again.

Hootie · 01-22-2007, 12:21 AM

Green would've had at least 16 INT's if he started every game, and the dude has been in the league 30 years now...

Grossman > Green and Grossman was pretty much a rookie this year.

Hootie · 01-22-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Green, 8 games 12 Turnovers

Grossman 16 games, 25 Turnovers

You're wrong again, talking about of your ass again, making an ass out of yourself again.

hey skippy, multiply Green by two and you get the same ****ing number...

Jesus Christ.

Hootie · 01-22-2007, 12:23 AM

and the last time I made an ass out of myself (Huard), I was 100% right.

So how can I be making an ass out of myself again, when I never made an ass out of myself in the first place?

???

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-22-2007, 12:25 AM

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hey skippy, multiply Green by two and you get the same ****ing number...

Jesus Christ.

Ok so 2*12=25??

And I'm the one who doesn't know anything about logic?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-22-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Green would've had at least 16 INT's if he started every game, and the dude has been in the league 30 years now...

Grossman > Green and Grossman was pretty much a rookie this year.

Is 16 more or less than 20...and did or did not Green play 12 games against the patsies in the NFC, cause I'd like to know.

Hootie · 01-22-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Ok so 2*12=25??

And I'm the one who doesn't know anything about logic?

are you kidding me right now?

I said Green averaged the same, if not more turnovers per game than Grossman.

BIG ****ING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 24 AND 25.

hahahahaha

MAN.

tk13 · 01-22-2007, 12:28 AM

To be fair, Grossman didn't face a defense as good as San Diego or Baltimore... both Brady and Manning looked terrible against those defenses last week. I don't think Grossman would've faired any better. He threw three picks against New England. There was probably one good defense in the NFC, and he only faced them in practice.

Hootie · 01-22-2007, 12:29 AM

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Is 16 more or less than 20...and did or did not Green play 12 games against the patsies in the NFC, cause I'd like to know.

All I know is 16 is FAR TOO many for a QB known as an accurate, smart QB...

Grossman is a gunslinger, gunslingers should have more INT's than QB's like Green...

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Green would've had at least 16 INT's if he started every game, and the dude has been in the league 30 years now... Grossman > Green and Grossman was pretty much a rookie this year.
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01-22-2007, 12:28 AM	#119
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1442500	To be fair, Grossman didn't face a defense as good as San Diego or Baltimore... both Brady and Manning looked terrible against those defenses last week. I don't think Grossman would've faired any better. He threw three picks against New England. There was probably one good defense in the NFC, and he only faced them in practice.
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