Fantasy Football Who's your guy in the 4th quarter when losing to an above .500 team: Alex or Aa - Page 8

Discuss Thrower · 07-13-2013, 09:16 AM

I pulled this link off of Reddit thinking this would be a great source of friendly banter and enlightened discussion. Who's more clutch in a comeback against winning teams? You want Captain Checkdown II- Electric Boogaloo or you want the Discount Double Check guy?

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DISCUS.

Fish · 07-13-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

What if he doesn't have to pass though?

Yeah.... what if? What if the most important position on the field isn't asked to do his job, the job that makes it the most important position on the field?

What if guys? You never know.........

Hammock Parties · 07-13-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Back To The Future.

Set the DeLorean to 1990, Doc. Go Martyball.

Steve DeBerg career 300-yard games: 21

Alex Smith: 3

**Mav** · 07-13-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

How comical is it that he has the exact same "comeback" W/L record as a certain QB who this place has spent years crucifying?

On a serious note, two things:

First, cdcox is spot on here - the way they go about defining a "comeback" is pretty ****ed.

Second, there's a huge difference in playing like shit all day, having your defense keep you in a 10-7 for 58 minutes, and then scoring - versus scoring 35 points a game only to have your defense never get a stop.

I'll take the guy that can regularly put up points, because he gives you the best chance to win.

Can I ask you a serious question. What elite qb has had the lack of talent at the receiving position as Alex Smith had in 2011 in San Francisco? Teams doubled Vernon Davis. Crabtree rarely gets separation. That's why Colin and Crabs worked so well, because colin doesn't give a shit. he will just throw it. but normal qbs, with normal arms, cant do what colin does. Doesn't anyone here think that there is some correlation between say, Aaron Rodgers, and all of his weapons, tom brady, and all of his weapons, drew brees, and the lack of weapons that the 49ers had?

Don't believe me?

Going into 2012, they signed Randy moss, Mario manningham, drafted Aj Jenkins.

How many receivers, and skill positions did the packers draft this year?

Or were they so ****ing loaded that they told Donald driver to retire, and let Greg Jennings leave for NOTHING.

Now, I have admitted, that Alex Smith is nothing special, but, if qbs that are THAT great, have weapons like that, how could anyone expect Alex Smith to be elite, or even good, without stuff like that?

This year for the record. They drafted Patton, they traded for Boldin, drafted a tight end in the second round. So even they understand that an upgrade in weaponry is needed.

Am I making a LOGICAL point here, or is this all just, Alex Smith sucks. the end.

**Mav** · 07-13-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Yeah.... what if? What if the most important position on the field isn't asked to do his job, the job that makes it the most important position on the field?

What if guys? You never know.........

nah, you are missing the point. The whole reason the packers drafted two running backs this year is what?

The whole reason the lions are addressing their running back positions and olines is what?

The reasons that 3 of the top 4 picks in the draft were offensive linemen were what?

To get more balance. That's what. Even the top teams, all off season it was talked about here the reason they drafted two running backs, was they didn't want aaron Rodgers throwing as much as he was. They haven't had a 100 yard rusher in over two years.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2013, 02:01 PM

This TOP argument is the biggest crock of shit ever.

The Chiefs, who won 2 games and didn't hold a lead in regulation until late in the season were a whopping 1:15 behind the Niners in TOP per game.

Yep, that's the difference folks. According to the AS Fan Club, the Niners defense was elite because they got an extra 1:15 of rest per game.

Thank God for Alex Smith.

Fish · 07-13-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

nah, you are missing the point. The whole reason the packers drafted two running backs this year is what?

The whole reason the lions are addressing their running back positions and olines is what?

Because the best passers in the league are going to be asked to stop passing so much, and go from 400yds per game to 180yds per game?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Can I ask you a serious question. What elite qb has had the lack of talent at the receiving position as Alex Smith had in 2011 in San Francisco? Teams doubled Vernon Davis. Crabtree rarely gets separation. That's why Colin and Crabs worked so well, because colin doesn't give a shit. he will just throw it. but normal qbs, with normal arms, cant do what colin does. Doesn't anyone here think that there is some correlation between say, Aaron Rodgers, and all of his weapons, tom brady, and all of his weapons, drew brees, and the lack of weapons that the 49ers had?

Don't believe me?

Going into 2012, they signed Randy moss, Mario manningham, drafted Aj Jenkins.

How many receivers, and skill positions did the packers draft this year?

Or were they so ****ing loaded that they told Donald driver to retire, and let Greg Jennings leave for NOTHING.

Now, I have admitted, that Alex Smith is nothing special, but, if qbs that are THAT great, have weapons like that, how could anyone expect Alex Smith to be elite, or even good, without stuff like that?

This year for the record. They drafted Patton, they traded for Boldin, drafted a tight end in the second round. So even they understand that an upgrade in weaponry is needed.

Am I making a LOGICAL point here, or is this all just, Alex Smith sucks. the end.

I have no idea why I'm wasting my time responding, but here goes.

First - Tom Brady. He won championships throwing to ****ing scrubs.

Second - You're not helping your argument by saying he needs a shitload of help to be elite. He's not going to have any more help here than he did in SF. One elite pass catcher, one elite RB.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Because the best passers in the league are going to be asked to stop passing so much, and go from 400yds per game to 180yds per game?

splatbass · 07-13-2013, 02:07 PM

Oh, good. Another hate Alex Smith thread. We haven't had enough of these.

Why don't we let him play a game before declaring him a failure?

**Mav** · 07-13-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This TOP argument is the biggest crock of shit ever.

The Chiefs, who won 2 games and didn't hold a lead in regulation until late in the season were a whopping 1:15 behind the Niners in TOP per game.

Yep, that's the difference folks. According to the AS Fan Club, the Niners defense was elite because they got an extra 1:15 of rest per game.

Thank God for Alex Smith.

lol. Thanks for proving my point. When Alex Smith was replaced. The 49ers had the number two defense in the league, the number two scoring defense in the league, led the league in turnover differential, had the number one rushing attack, led the league in starting field position, and opposing teams field position. None of those categories were even close at the end of the season to where they were. Thank you for proving your ineptness and how little you actually understand about football. The world appreciates your dumbness.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Oh, good. Another hate Alex Smith thread. We haven't had enough of these.

Why don't we let him play a game before declaring him a failure?

People have short memories. The same thing was said in 2009 when we traded for a QB with a limited skillset.

You don't win championships in this era of the NFL unless you can pick up chunks of yards in the passing game.

Something like 19 attempts over 20 yards for an entire season tells me that Alex Smith can't do it, or his coaching staff thinks he can't do it.

Super Bowls aren't won anymore by QB's the play caller has to protect.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

lol. Thanks for proving my point. When Alex Smith was replaced. The 49ers had the number two defense in the league, the number two scoring defense in the league, led the league in turnover differential, had the number one rushing attack, led the league in starting field position, and opposing teams field position. None of those categories were even close at the end of the season to where they were. Thank you for proving your ineptness and how little you actually understand about football. The world appreciates your dumbness.

Of course it had something to do with Alex Smith - couldn't have POSSIBLY been for any other reason.

Wow.

Fish · 07-13-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

lol. Thanks for proving my point. When Alex Smith was replaced. The 49ers had the number two defense in the league, the number two scoring defense in the league, led the league in turnover differential, had the number one rushing attack, led the league in starting field position, and opposing teams field position. None of those categories were even close at the end of the season to where they were. Thank you for proving your ineptness and how little you actually understand about football. The world appreciates your dumbness.

All that, and they still replaced their QB? Doesn't that tell you something? If they're leading that many categories, and still felt it necessary to replace their QB, how the **** can you sit here and defend the guy when everything else about the team was working so well and he still got benched?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-13-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

lol. Thanks for proving my point. When Alex Smith was replaced. The 49ers had the number two defense in the league, the number two scoring defense in the league, led the league in turnover differential, had the number one rushing attack, led the league in starting field position, and opposing teams field position. None of those categories were even close at the end of the season to where they were. Thank you for proving your ineptness and how little you actually understand about football. The world appreciates your dumbness.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Of course it had something to do with Alex Smith - couldn't have POSSIBLY been for any other reason.

Wow.

Speaking of dumb, these are your own words:

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

that's a fallacy. Aldon Smith, himself was hurt. His shoulder was so messed up. He had surgery on it. Of course having J smith hurt doesn't help, but our front 7 was pretty darn banged up at the end of the season.

BUT IT WAS ALL BECAUSE ALEX SMITH WASN'T PLAYING!

splatbass · 07-13-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

People have short memories. The same thing was said in 2009 when we traded for a QB with a limited skillset.

You don't win championships in this era of the NFL unless you can pick up chunks of yards in the passing game.

Something like 19 attempts over 20 yards for an entire season tells me that Alex Smith can't do it, or his coaching staff thinks he can't do it.

Super Bowls aren't won anymore by QB's the play caller has to protect.

It must be miserable to HATE the team you are a "fan" of, and always wish them the worst. You must be a blast to be around.

Alex Smith is nothing like Matt Cassel, and only a moron would compare them. Have a good day, moron.

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07-13-2013, 02:01 PM	#110
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4221115	This TOP argument is the biggest crock of shit ever. The Chiefs, who won 2 games and didn't hold a lead in regulation until late in the season were a whopping 1:15 behind the Niners in TOP per game. Yep, that's the difference folks. According to the AS Fan Club, the Niners defense was elite because they got an extra 1:15 of rest per game. Thank God for Alex Smith.
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splatbass MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Casino cash: $6380560	Oh, good. Another hate Alex Smith thread. We haven't had enough of these. Why don't we let him play a game before declaring him a failure?
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