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why Chiefs WRs have 0 TDs

Because when Dwayne Bowe is the clear-cut #1 (and it's not even close), you have a terrible WR corps.

Please feel free to post any .gifs of 2014 Chiefs WRs dropping passes that hit them squarely in the hands/chest and/or stepping out of bounds with a clear path to the end zone in front of them.
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Old 10-20-2014, 04:29 PM   #106
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thanks Dorsey for drafting us an absolutely clueless and useless OLBer and not any of those WRs available
Was Ford even on the field yesterday?????
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:39 PM   #107
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:44 PM   #108
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Old 10-20-2014, 06:55 PM   #109
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Was Ford even on the field yesterday?????
couldn't you tell?
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:06 PM   #110
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He had a step on his guy. Most QBs ****ing throw that ball. Shit....Smith thought about it....shit himself and then threw a checkdown.
When I saw it, it looked like Cover 4 and Jenkins was initially running a deep in route and when it wasn't there he took it to the post instead and Smith went off that initial look. With more chemistry they might have been on the same page. Smith doesn't trust any of his receivers to win a jump ball (Week 1 anyone?).

I've noticed that most of Bowe's catches come when he's facing the LOS on a hitch or slant--basically anything that requires him tracking the ball and catching with his hands/high-pointing it he has difficulty with.. which is sad because his isn't Pop Warner.
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When I saw it, it looked like Cover 4 and Jenkins was initially running a deep in route and when it wasn't there he took it to the post instead and Smith went off that initial look. With more chemistry they might have been on the same page. Smith doesn't trust any of his receivers to win a jump ball (Week 1 anyone?).

I've noticed that most of Bowe's catches come when he's facing the LOS on a hitch or slant--basically anything that requires him tracking the ball and catching with his hands/high-pointing it he has difficulty with.. which is sad because his isn't Pop Warner.
He's very one-dimensional.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:42 PM   #112
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When I saw it, it looked like Cover 4 and Jenkins was initially running a deep in route and when it wasn't there he took it to the post instead and Smith went off that initial look. With more chemistry they might have been on the same page. Smith doesn't trust any of his receivers to win a jump ball (Week 1 anyone?).

I've noticed that most of Bowe's catches come when he's facing the LOS on a hitch or slant--basically anything that requires him tracking the ball and catching with his hands/high-pointing it he has difficulty with.. which is sad because his isn't Pop Warner.
Exactly. It's not like when Vermeil was here and everyone was running a go route and you would catch on the run with a full head of steam toward the goal line.
That's what Kelce was catching in the Preseason when Murray was throwing the ball to him.
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Exactly. It's not like when Vermeil was here and everyone was running a go route and you would catch on the run with a full head of steam toward the goal line.
That's what Kelce was catching in the Preseason when Murray was throwing the ball to him.
He had those two big plays in the preseason on a bang-8/post route which absolutely destroys zone coverage down the seam. Not sure why they haven't been able to hit on this yet, maybe defenses are playing a lot of man against him or Andy isn't dialing it up enough (the game-losing INT @ SF was on a TE post... to slow ass Fasano for some reason). They've hit on one (maybe two) corner routes with Kelce earlier in the year but it seems like most of his catches are designed routes to get him open in space via receiver screens or drags. Maybe he's not that skilled at route running or making contested catches at this point or they don't trust him enough or just simply think he's best used in a way that maximizes his YAC skills as opposed to a downfield threat.

I've also noticed that that cute quick receiver screen to him when the Patriots played off coverage that was so successful was setup against the Chargers except they used it as misdirection and handed it off to Charles on a draw several times in this game. I love this sort of week-to-week scheming like this by Andy.

EDIT: ALSO have you guys noticed that most of Alex's TDs this year have come off of plays BEHIND the actual goal line and then receiver running it in? I don't think they really trust Alex or the recievers that much down there I know historically with the Eagles Andy likes to screen in the redzone but we didn't really do it all that much last year and this year it's like every TD has come off of it
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:02 PM   #114
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Are our WRs in the top half of the league? No. But there are QBs out there that do more with less. This is on Smith AND the WR group.

And you want someone to blame for the WR group sucking? Look no further than Dorsey. Deepest WR draft in history....and we didn't draft one. Why you ask? Because we have Kelce. You know....that TE that gets targeted 3-4 times a game.
And WRs catching the ball beyond a certain point is not our strategy or strength.

We are a managed offense: running attack, short passes and blocking. WR are more of a decoy to spread defenders out. Sure they catch the ball every now and then. Maybe down the stretch Reid will get wiley and tell Smith to try and chuck 15 yards for a deep catch, or 20 on a play action. You just wait.
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And WRs catching the ball...is not our strategy or strength.
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Colin Kaepernick's had 7.1% of his passes dropped this season, 4th most in NFL. Alex Smith's had the most at 9.6%
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/1...-smiths-passes
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Colin Kaepernick's had 7.1% of his passes dropped this season, 4th most in NFL. Alex Smith's had the most at 9.6%
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/1...-smiths-passes
Makes sense.

When 10% of your passes get dropped...

What average percentage of an NFL qb's passes go for TDs in 2014??
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one more reason (if not mentioned yet)

chiefs are 24th out of 32 (bottom 30%) in pass protection, according to one of the advanced stats sites...

Gotta improve on that as well...I'm willing to give ALex Smith a pass if we can't do better on getting him some WR's that can hang onto the ball and some pass protection.
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Like many have said, Emmanuel Sanders would have really made the chiefs offense explosive!
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chiefs are 24th out of 32 (bottom 30%) in pass protection, according to one of the advanced stats sites...

Gotta improve on that as well...I'm willing to give ALex Smith a pass if we can't do better on getting him some WR's that can hang onto the ball and some pass protection.
Just ask Romo...
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