Chargers moving to LA

[KC Hawks]

A stunner: Chargers plan to announce as early as Thursday they are moving to LA, ending 55-year stint with SD, league sources tell ESPN.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 12, 2017

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is an absolutely stupid and senseless move.

The Spanos family will owe the NFL $650 million dollars for relocating, which could have been used to upgrade the Murph or even build a smaller stadium (like Lucas Oil, which seats 62,000).

Instead, they're moving into a market in which no one cares about them, will pay rent to the owner of a new stadium and will soon find out that no one will pay $5k and above for Personal Seat Licenses for their team.

This is an unmitigated disaster.

Yup. But i don't care. **** them.

I just feel bad for Rivers. He's going to finish his career in a city that doesn't want him, wearing a jersey that no one supports, in a 27K seat stadium that will be filled with the opposing team's fans.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

Fan videos himself throwing eggs at the Chargers facility classic line,"I'm gonna throw these eggs,hit my target and these mother******* are gonna want to sign me."

http://m.tmz.com/#article/2017/01/12...-headquarters/

Nice to see Hodor staying busy.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yup. But i don't care. **** them.



I just feel bad for Rivers. He's going to finish his career in a city that doesn't want him, wearing a jersey that no one supports, in a 27K seat stadium that will be filled with the opposing team's fans.

Hope he retires or demands a trade.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is an absolutely stupid and senseless move.

The Spanos family will owe the NFL $650 million dollars for relocating, which could have been used to upgrade the Murph or even build a smaller stadium (like Lucas Oil, which seats 62,000).

Instead, they're moving into a market in which no one cares about them, will pay rent to the owner of a new stadium and will soon find out that no one will pay $5k and above for Personal Seat Licenses for their team.

This is an unmitigated disaster. Los Angeles will not embrace this team.

Pretty much this.

I think jerry world ****ed all these owners minds. Now they feel like each stadium has to be a ****ing Taj Mahal kind of thing.

If you can't build a stadium for 700 million dollars, well, get out.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yup. But i don't care. **** them.

I just feel bad for Rivers. He's going to finish his career in a city that doesn't want him, wearing a jersey that no one supports, in a 27K seat stadium that will be filled with the opposing team's fans.

Think he just retires now?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Buck

Don't be reeruned. They have a giant fan base. The stadium is empty because fans were tired of constantly being ****ed.

Plus, the stadium is literally falling apart.

One of my good friend's went to the Chiefs-Chargers game and said the stadium smelled like sewage and liquid (likely urine) was dripping from the pipes above.

I haven't been down there since like 2008 and it was a dump then, so I can't even imagine how bad it is now.

[TribalElder]

I really enjoy the fact that we turned their ****ing lights out on their way out of town week 17

[Hoover]

Again, Thankful that the Chiefs got their stadium shit figuerd out.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yup. But i don't care. **** them.

I just feel bad for Rivers. He's going to finish his career in a city that doesn't want him, wearing a jersey that no one supports, in a 27K seat stadium that will be filled with the opposing team's fans.

I hadn't thought about that. That's too bad, especially since he was the good guy in the whole Eli Manning temper tantrum back when he was drafted.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Think he just retires now?

Worse. He's heading to Buffalo. (no link. throwing shit on a wall)

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Again, Thankful that the Chiefs got their stadium shit figuerd out.

The KC Star tried to inject negativity into that comforting thought earlier this week:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local...125652509.html

Cost of Chiefs, Royals stadiums means Kansas City area will face new questions

By Dave Helling

Kansas Citians will crowd into Arrowhead Stadium Sunday for the Chiefs’ playoff game with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It’ll be cold, maybe wet, definitely fun.

It’s been quite a time for fans of the area’s professional sports franchises. The Royals’ trips to the World Series in 2014 and 2015 still bring smiles. Sporting Kansas City won the MLS Cup in 2013. Now the Chiefs are back in the playoffs, with a shot at the NFL championship.

Only someone with a heart of stone could bring up worrisome news at a time like this. So call me Mr. Marble: It’s time for the metropolitan area to begin thinking about the future of the Truman Sports Complex, and where the Chiefs and Royals will play their games in the not-so-distant future.

I know what you’re thinking: didn’t we solve this problem just a few years ago? Well — yes, sort of. In 2006, Jackson County voters approved a 3/8 cent sales tax for improvements at the complex, and both teams signed 25-year lease extensions. The work was done, the teams got better, the seats were filled.

Don’t look now, but those lease agreements are now 11 years old. That means the area has just 14 years to figure out if it wants to keep professional sports in the community for several more decades — and, crucially, who will pay the cost.

OK, 14 years is a long time. But it isn’t an indefinite period of time. And the crushing math of big-time sports means the Kansas City area should at least start considering the choices it will face the closer we get to 2031, when the current leases expire.

Questions like: Will the teams want new stadiums? At the end of the current leases, Arrowhead and Kauffman stadiums will be almost six decades old, among the oldest stadiums in the country. Venues with far less mileage have been shuttered in recent years.

The Rams left St. Louis less than 25 years after their stadium was opened, claiming it was obsolete.

Yet building sports venues is enormously expensive, even using current dollars. The Atlanta area will open a baseball stadium this spring that cost more than $660 million to build. This summer, it will open a new football stadium that cost $1.5 billion.

By 2031, building new stadiums for the Chiefs and Royals could easily top $2 billion. Even rehabbing the current complex could run $1 billion or more. If the area started saving today it would need to set aside $70 million or more annually just to be ready for 2031.

Who will pay that cost? The state of Missouri seems uninterested in providing any more cash for sports venues — the legislature waved buh-bye to the Rams rather than cough up any money. The teams and leagues will help, of course, but the Royals especially are less than flush (in total revenue, not franchise value). And Jackson County voters are understandably weary of bearing the stadium burden alone.

User fees can pick up part of the cost, but only a part. It already costs $40 to park at a Chiefs game. A Royals game, for a family of four, easily costs $125.

That suggests some sort of regional taxpayer approach, including folks in Kansas. But developing a consensus on cost and a legal framework will take time and formidable political skill: It took local leaders seven years to push through a Bistate Commission for Union Station, and that was for a minor sales tax that provided about $118 million for the building.

New sports stadiums will be a much, much lengthier lift. And how do sports stadiums fit in with other challenges, like a new airport or improved mass transit? The price tag escalates.

There’s another possible response, of course. The area might conclude spending for stadiums is wasteful and wrong. Providing $2 billion in public funds so millionaires can play on teams owned by billionaires will anger lots of taxpayers, many of whom will never see a game in person. It might be that cities like Kansas City simply can’t support sports facilities that sit vacant for much of the year.

But the community should be clear-eyed about what that means. The San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders are getting ready to move to new cities. Both franchises wrestled with their cities for years, looking for better places to play.

Kansas City has a chance to avoid that fate. The teams’ owners have shown a willingness to work with the community on venue improvements, and neither the Chiefs nor Royals have ever hinted at a desire to move somewhere else. Perhaps reaching an agreement on new leases will be easier than in other cities. Maybe patching up the sports complex for another 25 years will work.

The conversation doesn’t have to start tomorrow, but it does have to start soon. Say, after the Super Bowl.

[Deberg_1990]

What a disaster

So just to clarify, it's not lack of fan support in San Diego that's the problem?

Why did they shoot down a new stadium proposal then?

I'm not a big fan of welfare for billionaires, but unfortunately that's the cost of doing business if you want to play in the big boy NFL.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

What a disaster

So just to clarify, it's not lack of fan support in San Diego that's the problem?

Why did they shoot down a new stadium proposal then?

I'm not a big fan of welfare for billionaires, but unfortunately that's the cost of doing business if you want to play in the big boy NFL.

If Spanos can pay a $650 million dollar relocation fee, he can pay for a new stadium himself, without public money.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you can't build a stadium for 700 million dollars, well, get out.

700 million in Missouri or Texas is a lot different than 700 million in California or New York.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Spanos can pay a $650 million dollar relocation fee, he can pay for a new stadium himself, without public money.

Yep. This is a big **** you to the fans of San Diego.