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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:48 PM   #1201
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:55 PM   #1202
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And how is that different than your strawman of people here that want Alwx to suck just so they can be right?
Guess it really isn't, in one respect. It's a suspicion that I have of a few posters.. not many.

As for this "won't be good enough in the playoffs".. sure that can be categorized as suspicion as well.. but then that would mean that people doubt that this offense can or does improve. To me, it seems an incredible reach to imagine that this offense regresses or stays the same.
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Old 09-27-2013, 06:05 PM   #1203
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Guess it really isn't, in one respect. It's a suspicion that I have of a few posters.. not many.

As for this "won't be good enough in the playoffs".. sure that can be categorized as suspicion as well.. but then that would mean that people doubt that this offense can or does improve. To me, it seems an incredible reach to imagine that this offense regresses or stays the same.


Sure wasn't good enough in 2011 against the Giants in the NFCCG.

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Old 09-27-2013, 06:29 PM   #1205
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You guys aren't enjoying your victories herp de derp
Why should we? The Chiefs are doomed. They'll probably go 10-6, lose in the playoffs and start all over again next year.

2-14 is SO much better. That way, the Chiefs will have a shot at a Franchise QB, like Sam Bradford or Tim Couch or Cade McNown or maybe even Mark Sanchez!
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Old 09-27-2013, 06:31 PM   #1206
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Yeah it really sucks being 3-0 and looking legit on defense for the first time in nearly 2 decades.
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Yeah it really sucks being 3-0 and looking legit on defense for the first time in nearly 2 decades.
It sucks that the defense is so good because if they weren't, the Chiefs would be 0-3 and in contention for the top draft spot.
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Old 09-27-2013, 06:43 PM   #1208
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It sucks that the defense is so good because if they weren't, the Chiefs would be 0-3 and in contention for the top draft spot.
Shit. There is a damn good RT available after Albert walks we will need one.
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Can't we just be happy about 3-0
no - Fire both Smiths.
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actually I very much am. Thrilled TBH.
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actually I very much am. Thrilled TBH.
Well just stop it.

It's all coming to an end, very soon.

I've read it repeatedly on Chiefsplanet so I know it's true.

Don't get your hopes up only to have them dashed.

Act like a bitter ****toy and you'll be much happier with the inevitable disappointing end.

It's not about the journey, it's knowing that everything ****ing sucks before you hit the road.
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actually I very much am. Thrilled TBH.
All I want is a win....and a damn clean breaker
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Well just stop it.

It's all coming to an end, very soon.

I've read it repeatedly on Chiefsplanet so I know it's true.

Don't get your hopes up only to have them dashed.

Act like a bitter ****toy and you'll be much happen with the inevitable disappointing end.

It's not about the journey, it's knowing that everything ****ing sucks before you hit the road.
I thought it was all about the deep ball? Sexy Rexy could be just what the CP doctor's ordered.
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...and the bitching goes on
No one predicted that the line(and soon, receivers)would be the "cause" for Alex not having a potent offense.

No, not one.
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Fans of teams that don't have a franchise QB.
Please. Stop trying to talk for all other teams. My Browns haven't had a Franchise qb since OTTO GRAHAM.
I would be thrilled to death with a guy who doesn't turn the ball over. My case and point. Browns delusionals are going crazy this week because Brian Hoyer managed to beat the VIKINGS. He still threw 3 AWFUL interceptions, and had to come from behind because he single handedly let them back in the game.
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No one predicted that the line(and soon, receivers)would be the "cause" for Alex not having a potent offense.

No, not one.
Alex having a potent offense?

Did you mean the Chiefs? Or are they now the Kansas City Alex's?

I get what you are saying, but the disconnect is that most people that aren't blaming alex individually, are blaming the offense equally.

And to be honest. I really don't blame any of the players for the way the offense looked the first 3 quarters in Philly.

I put half the blame on the stupid idea that we need this Thursday football bullshit, and second that it took Andy Reid 3 quarters to figure out what everyone in America saw. The Chiefs weren't respecting the run at all, and had they run the ball all night with Charles, that game would of been a complete and utter blow out.

Hope he took the 10 days to learn the lesson.
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