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duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

CaliforniaChief · 09-24-2013, 03:04 PM

Well the last few posts in this thread reminds me how important it is for the Royals to finish the season strong and the Orioles to...well just keep being the Orioles.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 09-24-2013, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Well the last few posts in this thread reminds me how important it is for the Royals to finish the season strong and the Orioles to...well just keep being the Orioles.

Back to back winning seasons? 27 years need I say more. This off season the Orioles will spend money to fix the problems. Can you say the same thing?

Great Expectations · 09-24-2013, 03:08 PM

Shields
Ventura
Duffy
Guthrie
FA

Will Smith is the next in line with Zimmer and maybe Dwyer following.

Shin, Uribe

ShowtimeSBMVP · 09-24-2013, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Shields
Ventura
Duffy
Guthrie
FA

Will Smith is the next in line with Zimmer and maybe Dwyer following.

Shin, Uribe

Ventura is a flat out beast. That kid is the real deal.

CaliforniaChief · 09-24-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Back to back winning seasons? 27 years need I say more. This off season the Orioles will spend money to fix the problems. Can you say the same thing?

Don't you have an Orioles thread that 4 people read?

mr. tegu · 09-24-2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Don't you have an Orioles thread that 4 people read?

He is proud that his team has completely folded and shown their true colors to make it that much more difficult on the Royals.

BigCatDaddy · 09-24-2013, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Shields
Ventura
Duffy
Guthrie
FA

Will Smith is the next in line with Zimmer and maybe Dwyer following.

Shin, Uribe

It would be nice if Paulino could stay healthy.

Ceej · 09-24-2013, 03:17 PM

Someone remind me of the Orioles record in one run games?

Oh, and how many blown saves Johnson had this year.

PLZ and thx.

Three7s · 09-24-2013, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Keep crying about Houston some more. When you play Twins and White Sox 19 times.

Yeah, because the Mariners and Angels are sooo good......

Great Expectations · 09-24-2013, 03:17 PM

Is Paulino a FA?

I haven't heard much on his recovery since late July.

Great Expectations · 09-24-2013, 03:18 PM

Uribe and Bonifacio can play 2B, SS, and 3B.

BigCatDaddy · 09-24-2013, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Is Paulino a FA?

I haven't heard much on his recovery since late July.

He had shoulder surgery recently and they found a cyst. He expects to be back ready for ST I believe.

CaliforniaChief · 09-24-2013, 03:30 PM

I wouldn't count on anything from Paulino moving forward. Dude just can't stay healthy.

Prison Bitch · 09-24-2013, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Keep crying about Houston some more. When you play Twins and White Sox 19 times.

Nice tapout. I'd avoid answering the questions too if I were you.

Prison Bitch · 09-24-2013, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej

Someone remind me of the Orioles record in one run games?

Oh, and how many blown saves Johnson had this year.

PLZ and thx.

Worst in the AL. And not sure on Johnson, but we can assume he's as gutless as every other player on that team of cowards.

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1390308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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