Chiefs Schefter: Chiefs leaning towards firing Pioli - Page 9

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2012, 01:06 PM

Schefter: Chiefs mulling big change
December, 30, 2012
DEC 30 1:50PM ET
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Sunday that he expects the Kansas City Chiefs to fire coach Romeo Crennel.

As for general manager Scott Pioli, Schefter reports the Chiefs -- mired in a miserable 2-13 season -- are leaning toward firing Pioli.

If I had to guess, I’d say both Crennel and Pioli are going to be fired. They are a package deal. I think if the Hunt family had its druthers, it would give both men another chance. But the fan fury is so great in Kansas City, I think the Hunts will be compelled to make a move.

I don’t think firing one of the two and keeping the other will work.

Pioli has hired two coaches -- Todd Haley and Crennel -- since joining the Chiefs in 2009. I don’t necessarily think he will get a chance to hire a third. If that is what is the case, I think the Chiefs will likely make a clean sweep and hire a new general manager (Bill Polian, anyone?) first and then a head coach.

We shall soon see. I don’t think the Hunts will wait long before making a decision.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...ing-big-change

-King- · 12-30-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Pioli hasn't made any money for the Hunts /CP

How is he making Hunt any more money than Peterson did? How would Pioli make him more money than (insert ANY other available GM) would?

FAX · 12-30-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Someone is going to have to explain to me how an extension affects the previous contract in anyway unless its a restructure.

I've percolated on that, Mr. jd1020 after which I sat in the pot for a few days.

The only way I can figure it is that you "give" the extension in exchange for "taking" a less expensive buyout. For Pioli it might make sense because he gets the multi-year extension if he can keep his job.

FAX

**The Bad Guy** · 12-30-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Didnt you just say a couple weeks ago that your source told you Pioli had already been fired?

Do you know multiple people there, or am I getting you confused with someone else?

There's 3 people I get info from. 1 really solid one, one meh one and another decent guy.

I did not get the firing info from the real solid one. Could have been the same dude that told Nick Wright. Don't know if there's any connection.

What's been said is that Clark had his mind made up and Pioli did a master sales job to stay on.

Jerm · 12-30-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There's 3 people I get info from. 1 really solid one, one meh one and another decent guy.

I did not get the firing info from the real solid one. Could have been the same dude that told Nick Wright. Don't know if there's any connection.

What's been said is that Clark had his mind made up and Pioli did a master sales job to stay on.

If he does indeed stay, any opinions on who we'd go after as far as HC?

Surely it can't be Ferentz...surely, surely not....

htismaqe · 12-30-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I didn't get any info on the candidates, just that Pioli won't be back as a lame duck with a new HC.

Sorry, I was just piggybacking on your post, since the contract extension was a common theme in both pieces of info.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-30-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

What?

That makes NO sense. How exactly is Pioli making him a lot of money? Ticket sales will be the lowest in the league if Pioli is retained.

Clark isn't a stupid business man. Even if all he cares about is money, he knows that firing Pioli is the only way to get more money.

It's not just ticket sales.

Pioli has his hand in every aspect of the org. Operation costs from the amount of ink used, to paper ordered, to the fabric on sales people's chairs have been micromanaged by him.

He has his hands everywhere. He's cut their spending significantly over what Carl had done. That was one of the appeals Clark first had with Scott is SP came in and pinpointed areas to save money.

Clark is a business man. He hasn't lost money a single year Pioli has been here.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-30-2012, 02:33 PM

Great. So now we have 2 completely different conflicting reports.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-30-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

If he does indeed stay, any opinions on who we'd go after as far as HC?

Surely it can't be Ferentz...surely, surely not....

Pioli is the ultimate comfort guy.

I'm sure that'll be his first go to.

But if all of this is true, and Pioli is back, I'm done communicating with any of them. I need to rid myself of the filth that is this organization.

htismaqe · 12-30-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There's 3 people I get info from. 1 really solid one, one meh one and another decent guy.

I did not get the firing info from the real solid one. Could have been the same dude that told Nick Wright. Don't know if there's any connection.

What's been said is that Clark had his mind made up and Pioli did a master sales job to stay on.

Then Clark is a moron and this team is done for.

We're going to have the #1 overall pick for the first time EVER and it's not going to matter.

displacedinMN · 12-30-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Great. So now we have 2 completely different conflicting reports.

In other words-NO ONE KNOWS!!!

NO ONE!
Maybe not ever Clark.

Sassy Squatch · 12-30-2012, 02:35 PM

It has to be a REALLY spectacular head coach hire if Pioli stays. Better not be Firentz

Mr. Laz · 12-30-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I think you miss the point sometimes Laz, its not that Clark isn't making $, he just doesn't need Pioli to make that $. The Chiefs are a paid for franchise from the get go, making $ is as sure as the sun coming up.

There are plenty of cap guys you can use to manage salary $ etc...that's not even Pioli's forte.

Pioli is a GM who believed in not spending big in FA and building from the draft. He believes in a certain slotting for positions when it comes to money.

This philosophy leads to the Chiefs not spending the entire salary cap and making lots of money. Most GM's would fight against this and want to spend as much as they can each year.

Especially with the lockout and no salary floor ... In my opinion, Pioli made the Hunt a tons of money and Clark loved it.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-30-2012, 02:35 PM

No one will be happier than I am if he gets fired.

I just haven't been told from anyone I trust that it's going to happen and that he won't be back in 2013. All the info is in the other direction with the exception of Schefter and LaCon.

jd1020 · 12-30-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I just haven't been told from anyone I trust that it's going to happen and that he won't be back in 2013. All the info is in the other direction with the exception of Schefter and LaCon.

Schefter hasn't reported anything. He used someone elses report and provided his opinion.

stonedstooge · 12-30-2012, 02:37 PM

If Pisoli is staying, I hope the ****ers win today and lose the 1 pick

12-30-2012, 01:06 PM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Schefter: Chiefs leaning towards firing Pioli Schefter: Chiefs mulling big change December, 30, 2012 DEC 30 1:50PM ET By Bill Williamson \| ESPN.com ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Sunday that he expects the Kansas City Chiefs to fire coach Romeo Crennel. As for general manager Scott Pioli, Schefter reports the Chiefs -- mired in a miserable 2-13 season -- are leaning toward firing Pioli. If I had to guess, I’d say both Crennel and Pioli are going to be fired. They are a package deal. I think if the Hunt family had its druthers, it would give both men another chance. But the fan fury is so great in Kansas City, I think the Hunts will be compelled to make a move. I don’t think firing one of the two and keeping the other will work. Pioli has hired two coaches -- Todd Haley and Crennel -- since joining the Chiefs in 2009. I don’t necessarily think he will get a chance to hire a third. If that is what is the case, I think the Chiefs will likely make a clean sweep and hire a new general manager (Bill Polian, anyone?) first and then a head coach. We shall soon see. I don’t think the Hunts will wait long before making a decision. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...ing-big-change
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