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01-18-2013, 05:19 PM | #121 | |
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But it would be nice to have a long term, competent back up QB. You know, a guy that wouldn't shit himself and is actually capable of winning games. |
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01-18-2013, 05:21 PM | #122 | |
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For a later round prospect to add to Geno I like Dysert over Nassib even though Nassib will probably go earlier. |
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01-18-2013, 05:22 PM | #123 | |
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The QB position on this team is so terrible that we have to throw numbers at the situation. I would have absolutely no problem with doing all three of the following: 1. Acquiring a legit "vet" option (such as a Flynn, whom I believe we could have for nominal cost if we're willing to take on the contract). 2. Drafting a QB whom we believe has franchise potential in the first, ideally. Definitely no later than the top of round two. 3. Throwing a late-round pick at a QB. At the very least, we must accomplish two of the three above options. |
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01-18-2013, 05:42 PM | #124 | |
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If Smith is the clear cut best option available in both the draft and in free agency/trade, and everyone else is a severe fall off the cliff compared to him (IE Smith is Matt Stafford and the next guy is Blaine Gabbert) then you take Smith. But if you say that Smith is going to be kind of in the same boat as a lot of these other guys, or you can get a guy in a later round that you feel has the makeup to succeed, then is there a better player available? For example, in hindsight it looks obvious, but in 2011 both Tennessee and JVille needed QB's and they identified Locker and Gabbert as top 10 worthy, and drafted them at 8 and 10 respectively. Meanwhile, JJ Watt go at 11, and Dalton and Kaepernick go in the second round. So Dorsey has a lot of different angles he has to look at. Is Smith truly the best? Will he fit in with what we do here and thrive? Do we give big money to Albert or is Joekel a significant, potential All-Pro upgrade? Is there a defender that is a game changer at that pick? Can we trade down? Will there be a QB in round 2 that will be a better fit for Reid? Can we trade back into the first round and take a QB who might not be significantly different than Smith? Etc. To me, if the answer is that Smith is by far the best QB available this year in the draft and free agency, and if there is no truly elite prospect in the draft, then the choice is simple. If Dorsey doesn't see much difference between Smith and Joekel talent wise, IE they both have upside but both have some warts, and elects to go with Joekel just because he is a "safer" pick, then that to me is like Jake Long over Matt Ryan, which is a mistake... |
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01-18-2013, 06:02 PM | #125 | |
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Bleacher report is like TMZ it's bullshit! I gota wait til the senior bowl and combine and pro days before I guess who we'll pick
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01-18-2013, 06:06 PM | #126 | |
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01-18-2013, 06:07 PM | #127 | |
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01-18-2013, 06:33 PM | #128 | |
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I would love to see three new options in camp next fall, with an open competition for the position. |
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01-18-2013, 06:36 PM | #129 | |
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For all the talk about people being "Geno crazy" it's pretty easy to see why. The rhetoric against varies between ignorant and downright stupid. |
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01-18-2013, 06:36 PM | #130 |
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Exactly, teams are not on the hook with these draft picks anymore like they used to be. The reward highly outweighs the risk, where as a few years ago you better not miss.
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That and guys are coming into the league better prepared and ready to play right away. You can compete, win games right away and that's not talking about guys like Luck and RG. It's ones like Dalton, Flacco, and Wilson.
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Even when they're super raw, teams are figuring out ways to use them. See Ryan Tannehill.
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01-18-2013, 07:34 PM | #133 |
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So, you're of the opinion that Smith can bypass throwing at the Combine, yet still be drafted #1 overall?
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01-18-2013, 08:09 PM | #134 |
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For the guys who don't want to draft Geno #1, where/who do we get who's better? If we don't draft a QB #1 it's because we sign or trade for someone better? Who is it?
Fact is we have to go into the season with the best QB possible. I'm OK with signing a veteran also as long as we get Geno. Geno might need time to work on the mechanics and mental reps of this style. Go into the season with the safety plan, but if Geno shows he's ready during Pre-Season then start him day one.
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01-18-2013, 08:44 PM | #135 | |
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Does Joekel improve our team over Albert more than Smith improves our team over Quinn or Cassel? I think the answer should be obvious.
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