OP Passes pit bull ban

[penguinz]

They just said on channel 9 news that this passed.

[KCTitus]

Here's the conviction story...3 years recommended by Jury.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...=1128768876458

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Reality is we need to go after irresponsible owners. With the other mentality of just remove the dog and eliminate the problem you would have to go with that in many other areas as well. Next thing you know we will be outlawing baseball bats. It's not the gun, the knife, the bat, the dog or anything else that is the issue it is the owner. In all areas you need to persue legislation that goes after the bad owners and not the other object no matter what it is. To go after the other object is a mentality with deep roots in liberal thought. THe fact that meme is for it should tell you everything you need to know.

Cmon are you really associating dog bites with guns, knives, and other weapons?!?!

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Here's the conviction story...3 years recommended by Jury.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...=1128768876458

I dont think anyone should be sent to prison over it by any means unless they are outright training the dogs to fight and attack people. They should just have the dogs put under along with a large fine in this case at least. Not to mention there would be a civil case to follow anyways.

[Demonpenz]

when is it time to just let it go and try focusing on winnable battles. Probably never for loyal owners

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

Cmon are you really associating dog bites with guns, knives, and other weapons?!?!

Actually it probably isn't the best comparison as you're more likely to die from getting hit in the head with a coconut as any dog. Seriously they all can provide great protection. My dog stopped a burglary attempt in my last house. If you don't think dogs provide a lot of protection for citizens you're trippen. If you don't think so watch court TV some time and ask yourself how many times this would have happened if they had a real dog.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

I dont think anyone should be sent to prison over it by any means unless they are outright training the dogs to fight and attack people. They should just have the dogs put under along with a large fine in this case at least. Not to mention there would be a civil case to follow anyways.

WOW

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

WOW

You're telling me that when 3 Pit Bulls attack and kill an 80 year old lady they shouldnt be put under?!?!

[morphius]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Actually it probably isn't the best comparison as you're more likely to die from getting hit in the head with a coconut as any dog. Seriously they all can provide great protection. My dog stopped a burglary attempt in my last house. If you don't think dogs provide a lot of protection for citizens you're trippen. If you don't think so watch court TV some time and ask yourself how many times this would have happened if they had a real dog.

I also doubt saying that the only "real" dogs are ones that will kill an intruder", is gonna help your, "it's the owner's stupid" arguement...

[banyon]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

You are right it is not purely a liberal/conservative issue but the HUGE majority of the time it is. From Europe through Canada and into the United States. BSL was voted through almost exclusively by liberals in Canada and Europe. I posted the voting results in Canada here a long time ago.[B]
Good to hear you don't support it though, that's great.

In the OP, it was more likely councilpeople like I described. There aren't a lot of libs in the OP, cuz dey got da mad jack$$$$!

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

You're telling me that when 3 Pit Bulls attack and kill an 80 year old lady they shouldnt be put under?!?!

Yea they should be put under but the owner should be held accountible.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Actually it probably isn't the best comparison as you're more likely to die from getting hit in the head with a coconut as any dog. Seriously they all can provide great protection. My dog stopped a burglary attempt in my last house. If you don't think dogs provide a lot of protection for citizens you're trippen. If you don't think so watch court TV some time and ask yourself how many times this would have happened if they had a real dog.

All I'm saying is that a dog has a mind of it's own as a gun or knife does not, so the way you associated the two doesnt make any sense. Pit Bulls do provide great protection as do other dogs. Those dogs have been simply bread for guarding/fighting etc. It's one thing to have these dogs out in the country or somewhere where theres alot of land, but its lunacy to have them in a neighborhood where there are small kids running around all the time. Property value on houses that live next to Pits go down for a reason. Home insurance goes up when one owns a Pit Bull (at least here in KC). It's not an act of Liberals or Conservatives, it's the fact that these dogs are dangerous, period. That's why its also illegal to have a Tiger or a Lion. I may exaggerating that a little too extreme but it's the same motive.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by morphius

I also doubt saying that the only "real" dogs are ones that will kill an intruder", is gonna help your, "it's the owner's stupid" arguement...

Show me where I said the only real dog is one that will kill an intruder.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Yea they should be put under but the owner should be held accountible.

Then the owner will/should get sued up the ass, not get sent to prison for simply not chaining up her dogs etc.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

I dont think anyone should be sent to prison over it by any means unless they are outright training the dogs to fight and attack people.

I disagree.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Show me where I said the only real dog is one that will kill an intruder.

You did say that someones house wouldnt have gotten burglarized if they had a real dog. Therefore you're expecting the burglar would have been killed/attacked if they encountered the "real" dog.