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Old 10-17-2010, 10:06 PM  
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People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks.

For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense.

Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9

Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb****.

Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a ****ing grip.
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:53 PM   #121
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No, it's not sensible.

It's ****ing cherry picking.

And you left out the fact that most of the time, when he put up less productive passing days, that's all that was needed, because his defense was kicking ****ing ass.

When the opposing quarterback is raping our secondary in the fourth quarter I want a Chiefs quarterback who can respond.
Nothing "cherry picking" about it, since it was pointing out the production numbers of a similar offense run by Weis. And you're leaving out the fact that the Chiefs were in the lead, so the game plan was working and that was "all that was needed" at the time.
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:54 PM   #122
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Well color me a dumb****. I think Matty made a few brilliant plays today (plays that put us in the game in the first ****ing place).

In my mind we shouldn't hold him accountable for failing to win the game in spite of a poor defensive showing. It seems quite clear that if he had not played so well the defense would not have been exposed in an utter failure to protect a lead.

In short Cassel's great play left the defense open to failure. Given the task of protecting a lead and salting a win away the defense failed.

That's OK! As a ****ing stupid noob (Danes latest rep kiss) I proclaim that this teams arrow is pointing ****ing up. At the end of the day if we are worth a shit this kind of loss will only make us better... or something... dammit.
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:55 PM   #123
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The Chiefs are a running and short/medium pass team, and the team was playing that way for pretty much the entire game. The offense did as it was designed to. Your argument ignores that, which is why pointing to those other teams' numbers doesn't really make a lot of sense.
The argument is, if we had a QB that can throw the ****ing ball, we win the game. We don't have a gunslinger, we don't have a Matt Schaub that's good for a couple 30/40 yard money pass plays that totally change the game. Like you said, short/medium pass game. The short/medium pass doesn't win the race, it may look nice and cute in the box score, but it doesn't get it done.
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:55 PM   #124
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I don't know why people keep bitching about Cassel's yardage output. He threw 3 TD's. Nobody has thrown more TD's on the Texans, and scoring points > putting up meaningless yards. How many yards was he supposed to throw for when we almost had 2 guys rush for 100 yards?
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:56 PM   #125
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Cassel actually played very well for 59 minutes today, and I applaud him. In the last minute he was the worst quarterback ever to set foot on a field, and unfortunately that happened at a time when he was highly visible, and it's the last thing we'll see of him for a week.

Of course, Barry Richardson's complete and utter failure on the last play wasn't Cassel's fault.
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:57 PM   #126
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Cassel was 4-8 for 46 yards in the fourth quarter.

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Old 10-17-2010, 11:59 PM   #127
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Dude, IMO Cassel didnt make "brilliant plays" today. He made plays that are EXPECTED from NFL BACKUPS and SECOND YEAR QUARTERBACKS. We are just so used to seeing the TOTAL AND COMPLETE GARBAGE that is his usual self that anything a step up from that is now being taken as ELEVENTY GREATNESS!!!1111111111

The guy went up against Bartee and Warfield today (with Wesley and some other scrub at safety) and came out with 200 yards of passing yards to show for it when backup level players light that secondary up for 300 routinely.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:00 AM   #128
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When the opposing quarterback is raping our secondary in the fourth quarter I want a Chiefs quarterback who can respond.
Exactly.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:00 AM   #129
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No, it's not sensible.

It's ****ing cherry picking.

And you left out the fact that most of the time, when he put up less productive passing days, that's all that was needed, because his defense was kicking ****ing ass.

When the opposing quarterback is raping our secondary in the fourth quarter I want a Chiefs quarterback who can respond.
While I agree with the sentiment Schaub had enough time to take a piture of his tool and text it to some chick in the tunnel on about every play. Besides the last 28 seconds I have a hard time faulting Cassel in this loss.
He threw 3 TDs.


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Old 10-18-2010, 12:00 AM   #130
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The point I was making was that out of what I beleive was 67 total plays on offense, 29 of these were pass attempts. 38 run attempts. The gameplan obviously favored the run when we were facing a team with a poor pass defense. Doesn't say much with regards to our coaches faith in our passing game.
This team has Charles and Jones, and is running an offense that's similar to what the Patriots ran under Weis. In 2001, the team ran just about 50/50 (473/482). In 2003, the team had 60 more passes than runs. Those are winning years with running backs like Antowain Smith toting the rock. In 2004, the team rushed more than it passed (524-485).

This is what Weis historically does with a winning team that's staying in games.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:00 AM   #131
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I don't know why people keep bitching about Cassel's yardage output. He threw 3 TD's. Nobody has thrown more TD's on the Texans, and scoring points > putting up meaningless yards. How many yards was he supposed to throw for when we almost had 2 guys rush for 100 yards?
Yea but, the play on 3rd and 2 he ****ed it up at the same time to close the game. You can't call him a clutch QB, he is far from an elite that will take us to the promise land. He didn't out right lose the game for us but he didn't win it for us eather, and there are games that you want our QB to win it for us. Can't expect the defense to bail out the offense every week. Just like last week against the Colts. Cassel needs to play like he gets paid.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:02 AM   #132
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The argument is, if we had a QB that can throw the ****ing ball, we win the game. We don't have a gunslinger, we don't have a Matt Schaub that's good for a couple 30/40 yard money pass plays that totally change the game. Like you said, short/medium pass game. The short/medium pass doesn't win the race, it may look nice and cute in the box score, but it doesn't get it done.
The argument sucks. Peyton Manning can "throw the ****ing ball", and he lost to the Texans, and put up fewer points against them than did Cassel. Also, short/medium passes won 3 Super Bowls with Weis/Crennel.

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Old 10-18-2010, 12:05 AM   #133
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#1) No one is placing the blame all at the feet of Cassel. That's a bullshit strawman.
#2) Cassel deserves a portion of the blame for the inability to hit three consecutive open receivers. The biggest miss was, of course, the third and 2 shitbomb to Moeaki. As a QB you have to make that throw.
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While I agree with the sentiment Schaub had enough time to take a piture of his tool and text it to some chick in the tunnel on about every play. Besides the last 28 seconds I have a hard time faulting Cassel in this loss.
He threw 3 TDs.


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WTF did Schaub do on the game's go-ahead cluster****?

He was pressured, bailed out and made a stupendous play off his back foot, no less.

Cassel couldn't throw it 10 yards in the same situation let alone 25.
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The guy went up against Bartee and Warfield today (with Wesley and some other scrub at safety) and came out with 200 yards of passing yards to show for it when backup level players light that secondary up for 300 routinely.
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