Football AFCW - so is Oakland going to win it? - Page 9

Mile High Mania · 11-21-2011, 01:11 PM

Granted... I don't see the AFCW Champion doing anything in the playoffs, barring some fantastic wildcard weekend match-up with another struggling team.

At this point, through week 11:

Raiders 6-4 / 2-2 div (split with Den)
Broncos 5-5 / 2-2 div
Chiefs 4-5* / 2-2 div
Chargers 4-6 / 2-2 div

Raiders remaining: CHI / @ MIA / @ GBP / DET / @ KCC / SDC
Broncos remaining: @ SDC / @ MIN / CHI / NEP / @ BUF / KCC
Chiefs remaining: @ NEP / PIT / @ CHI / @ NYJ / GBP / OAK / @ DEN
Chargers remaining: DEN / @ JAX / BUF / BAL / @ DET / @ OAK

Are the Raiders sitting pretty with only a 1 game lead?

I think the Chiefs have a pretty brutal stretch...
I have no idea how to project Denver - looks tough, but with Cutler and the Bills falling... it's not horrible.
Chargers ... I just don't know what to expect, another late season rally?

Raiders ... I could see them pulling this off and again, I realize it means very little, but looking ahead can be fun.

The Broncos really need to beat SD this week... if they can do this, then anything is possible, but even at 4-6, the Chargers are dangerous - lots of talent.

I would like to find a way for Oakland not to win the division, but it looks like they have a strong chance.

Ugly Duck · 12-04-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I would like to find a way for Oakland not to win the division, but it looks like they have a strong chance.

Its happened.... its here. Amazing but true.... Denver has just grabbed the inside track on the division. Who wudda thunk it? Raiders were dominated on both sides of the line in Miami. Dolphins thrashed them in every phase of the game. Broncos pulled off yet another miracle - gave up 500 yards to the Minnesota Ponders.... & yet still managed to win. They lead the division on tiebreakers, 3-2 in the AFCW & 6-3 in the conference. Raiders will lose @Packers next week, Broncos are in the driver's seat. In the preseason, I picked Denver to wallow in the AFCW cellar. Shows how much I know. Now we must all admit.... the Denver Freakin Broncos, with Tim Fuggin Tebow under center, are in control of the AFC West. Its a turvy, topsy world....

Mile High Mania · 12-05-2011, 05:28 AM

So, here we are...

Broncos 7-5 / 3-2 div - currently hold the tiebreakers over OAK
Raiders 7-5 / 2-2 div

Raiders remaining: @ GBP / DET / @ KCC / SDC
Broncos remaining: CHI / NEP / @ BUF / KCC

Denver has 3 of their final 4 at home, which is sweet. The Raiders travel to Green Bay this week and then they host the Lions, I dig it.

I hope the Broncos don't toy around with the beaten down Bears, that would be a letdown of monumental proportions. The Patriots in 2 weeks... that's huge and after watching Ponder yesterday, the secondary better get ready.

Mile High Mania · 12-05-2011, 05:50 AM

Four more games to go... but, if the season ended today - Denver would be the #4 seed and hosting #5 Steelers in the WildCard Round.

That's kinda crazy...

MMXcalibur · 12-05-2011, 06:13 AM

Denver sucks.

SenselessChiefsFan · 12-05-2011, 06:14 AM

Boy, if the Raiders don't win the West this year, the Palmer trade will be colossal Fail. Granted, I think the trade is fail anyways....unless you win a Super Bowl, which I don't think happens. But, if they don't even win THIS division? Pathetic.

Mile High Mania · 12-05-2011, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Boy, if the Raiders don't win the West this year, the Palmer trade will be colossal Fail. Granted, I think the trade is fail anyways....unless you win a Super Bowl, which I don't think happens. But, if they don't even win THIS division? Pathetic.

Yeah, that's a lot of picks to use for a win now on an older beaten QB... if you don't win now.

SenselessChiefsFan · 12-05-2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Yeah, that's a lot of picks to use for a win now on an older beaten QB... if you don't win now.

It will be interesting to see what happens over the final three weeks of the season if they get blown out by GB and the Broncos are able to beat the Bears.

Mile High Mania · 12-05-2011, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

It will be interesting to see what happens over the final three weeks of the season if they get blown out by GB and the Broncos are able to beat the Bears.

No offense, but if Forte is out... we saw what KC did at CHI... I was liking Denver's chances in Denver before Forte got hurt.

Things are oddly lining up ... with the injuries to key players on their schedule recently. They have to win next week vs CHI to really make the NE game high profile.

SenselessChiefsFan · 12-05-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

No offense, but if Forte is out... we saw what KC did at CHI... I was liking Denver's chances in Denver before Forte got hurt.

Things are oddly lining up ... with the injuries to key players on their schedule recently. They have to win next week vs CHI to really make the NE game high profile.

It will be interesting to see the Broncos versus the Pats.

The Broncos should take care of business versus the Bears. The great thing about Tebow is that he doesn't make mistakes. For all his shortcomings, he has only one INT, I think this season.

whoman69 · 12-05-2011, 10:43 AM

I would laugh so hard if the other teams let the Chiefs win the division. If we beat Denver and Oakland we would have the first tiebreaker.

Nightfyre · 12-05-2011, 10:46 AM

I wouldn't. Unless Orton somehow miraculously recovers and turns into Kurt Warner pt II. That would be sorta cool. But we would still have to draft RG3.

Mile High Mania · 12-05-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

I would laugh so hard if the other teams let the Chiefs win the division. If we beat Denver and Oakland we would have the first tiebreaker.

overall / division / conference

Broncos 7-5 / 3-2 / 6-3 (CHI / Pats / @ Bills / KC)
Raiders 7-5 / 2-2 / 5-5 (@ Packers / DET / @KC / SD)
Chiefs 5-7 / 2-2 / 3-6 (@Jets / Packers / Raiders / @ Broncos)
Chargers 4-7* / 2-3 / 3-5* (@ Jax / Bills / Ravens / @ Lions / @ Raiders)

At this point, Denver really controls their own fate and the road to the AFC West title actually goes through Denver with 3 of their 4 remaining games in Denver.

Denver has the best divisional record and conference record. I don't know how all the 'common opponents' breaks down at this point, but I bolded what I believe to be are the toughest games left for each team.

Denver will very likely be in a position that it hasn't been in for the last several years, favorites in 3 of the last 4 games and playing as the team to beat in December. It's nice for a change... but barring some monumental collapses, I just don't see KC or SD playing anything more than spoiler.

Oakland really took a major step back with the beating yesterday against the Dolphins.

Worst case, I see ...
Denver going 2-2 (likely 3-1 though)
Oakland going 2-2
Chiefs going 1-3 (maybe 2-2, doubt it though)
Chargers going 2-3

Mile High Mania · 12-06-2011, 07:32 AM

So, with 4 games to go.. only 2 games separate worst from first. Which team will crawl out of this lousy division, win the title and advance to the playoffs?

overall / division / conference

Broncos 7-5 / 3-2 / 6-3 (CHI / Pats / @ Bills / KC)
Raiders 7-5 / 2-2 / 5-5 (@ Packers / DET / @KC / SD)
Chiefs 5-7 / 2-2 / 3-6 (@Jets / Packers / Raiders / @ Broncos)
Chargers 5-7 / 2-3 / 4-5 ( / Bills / Ravens / @ Lions / @ Raiders)

Broncos split with OAK and SD, won first game @ KC.
Raiders split with Den, lost to KC, won @ SD
KC split with SD, lost to Den, won @ OAK
Chargers split with Den, split with KC and lost to OAK

San Diego has the worst road to the division title, looking at whom they've lost to within the division and their remaining games.

Raiders have a daunting stretch of games ahead of them with @ Packers, the Lions and then @ KC.

Chiefs... two tough games coming up @ Jets and then the Packers, followed by 2 Div games.

Denver could certainly stumble... they've been living on a prayer at times recently and at some point, they're bound to come up short. They have the most favorable position at this point... but, I'm starting to think that they can stumble here, go 2-2 and still win the division. Granted, likely means a first round exit, but you never know.

OctoberFart · 01-09-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

NO AFCW team can talk smaq about the post season. If you haven't won a play off game and a SB in 5 yrs, you are irrelevant.

Said by a team that hasn't been relevant in 20 years and seen every other team in the AFCW even old AFCW cellar dweller Seattle in the big game. Chiefs are an embarrassment to the league. Now why don't you all neg rep me with go die in a fire. Come on guys you need some new stuff.

R8RFAN · 01-15-2012, 02:10 PM

It's been 15,343 days since the Chiefs won or were in their last Superbowl

11-21-2011, 01:11 PM
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $1077229	AFCW - so is Oakland going to win it? Granted... I don't see the AFCW Champion doing anything in the playoffs, barring some fantastic wildcard weekend match-up with another struggling team. At this point, through week 11: Raiders 6-4 / 2-2 div (split with Den) Broncos 5-5 / 2-2 div Chiefs 4-5* / 2-2 div Chargers 4-6 / 2-2 div Raiders remaining: CHI / @ MIA / @ GBP / DET / @ KCC / SDC Broncos remaining: @ SDC / @ MIN / CHI / NEP / @ BUF / KCC Chiefs remaining: @ NEP / PIT / @ CHI / @ NYJ / GBP / OAK / @ DEN Chargers remaining: DEN / @ JAX / BUF / BAL / @ DET / @ OAK Are the Raiders sitting pretty with only a 1 game lead? I think the Chiefs have a pretty brutal stretch... I have no idea how to project Denver - looks tough, but with Cutler and the Bills falling... it's not horrible. Chargers ... I just don't know what to expect, another late season rally? Raiders ... I could see them pulling this off and again, I realize it means very little, but looking ahead can be fun. The Broncos really need to beat SD this week... if they can do this, then anything is possible, but even at 4-6, the Chargers are dangerous - lots of talent. I would like to find a way for Oakland not to win the division, but it looks like they have a strong chance.
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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $1077229	So, here we are... Broncos 7-5 / 3-2 div - currently hold the tiebreakers over OAK Raiders 7-5 / 2-2 div Raiders remaining: @ GBP / DET / @ KCC / SDC Broncos remaining: CHI / NEP / @ BUF / KCC Denver has 3 of their final 4 at home, which is sweet. The Raiders travel to Green Bay this week and then they host the Lions, I dig it. I hope the Broncos don't toy around with the beaten down Bears, that would be a letdown of monumental proportions. The Patriots in 2 weeks... that's huge and after watching Ponder yesterday, the secondary better get ready. __________________
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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $1077229	So, with 4 games to go.. only 2 games separate worst from first. Which team will crawl out of this lousy division, win the title and advance to the playoffs? overall / division / conference Broncos 7-5 / 3-2 / 6-3 (CHI / Pats / @ Bills / KC) Raiders 7-5 / 2-2 / 5-5 (@ Packers / DET / @KC / SD) Chiefs 5-7 / 2-2 / 3-6 (@Jets / Packers / Raiders / @ Broncos) Chargers 5-7 / 2-3 / 4-5 ( / Bills / Ravens / @ Lions / @ Raiders) Broncos split with OAK and SD, won first game @ KC. Raiders split with Den, lost to KC, won @ SD KC split with SD, lost to Den, won @ OAK Chargers split with Den, split with KC and lost to OAK San Diego has the worst road to the division title, looking at whom they've lost to within the division and their remaining games. Raiders have a daunting stretch of games ahead of them with @ Packers, the Lions and then @ KC. Chiefs... two tough games coming up @ Jets and then the Packers, followed by 2 Div games. Denver could certainly stumble... they've been living on a prayer at times recently and at some point, they're bound to come up short. They have the most favorable position at this point... but, I'm starting to think that they can stumble here, go 2-2 and still win the division. Granted, likely means a first round exit, but you never know. __________________
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