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Old 12-06-2011, 11:55 AM  
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Marlins have made 10-year offer to Pujols

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Confirmed: #Marlins have made 10-year offer to Pujols. Source says two sides trying to work through no-trade issue. MORE #MLB
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:12 PM   #121
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Read an interesting article that a lot of these moves might be a way of invigorating the hispanic fan base in Miami. If that's the case, and it's actually kind of brilliant, then I don't see that fan base being the same as the shitty fan base that roots for the Heat or the Dolphins.

Not to say that they want Pujols for his hispanic descent. Guillen, Reyes, Pujols... this is quickly becoming Latin America's team. And it's the perfect market to do that.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:14 PM   #122
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I'm a Cardinal fan so maybe I'm a little sore on the subject, but in my eyes this makes him worse than Lebron.

Lebron left because he wanted to win a championship. Or basically have one given to him.

Albert has won 2 WS as a Cardinal. This is all about money. Can't blame the guy I guess, I just like guys of his stature to start and finish with one team.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:16 PM   #123
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Can you blame them? I can't.
I believe I'd be bitter too after what they've been led to believe from him and the fact that not only is there no such thing as a home town discount in a city that loves him, who just won a 2nd World Series with him... but now he appears to be sitting with his feet up on the owners desk in Miami smoking thousand dollar bills and saying keep throwing the money at me boys I'm not feeling loved enough just yet.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:20 PM   #124
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I'm a Cardinal fan so maybe I'm a little sore on the subject, but in my eyes this makes him worse than Lebron.

Lebron left because he wanted to win a championship. Or basically have one given to him.

Albert has won 2 WS as a Cardinal. This is all about money. Can't blame the guy I guess, I just like guys of his stature to start and finish with one team.
No, totally, totally different situations.

I like the Cardinals and hope Pujols stays. But how can you blame him for wanting more money at this stage in his career? He's earned that right. Lebron, on the other hand, promised Cleveland a championship and then chicken-shitted out so he can buy a championship. And unless Pujols makes some kind of a chicken shit announcement on national TV, he'll do it with more character than Lebron did too.

I could see why a Cards fan would be mad. But it's hard to mad at a guy who has done so much for the team and the city.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:21 PM   #125
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One thing people have to understand is this is a Jim Thome situation... MLB union won't allow hometown discounts... and FWIW the Cardinals have already had one hell of a hometown discount from him.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:22 PM   #126
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No, totally, totally different situations.

I like the Cardinals and hope Pujols stays. But how can you blame him for wanting more money at this stage in his career? He's earned that right. Lebron, on the other hand, promised Cleveland a championship and then chicken-shitted out so he can buy a championship. And unless Pujols makes some kind of a chicken shit announcement on national TV, he'll do it with more character than Lebron did too.

I could see why a Cards fan would be mad. But it's hard to mad at a guy who has done so much for the team and the city.
LeBron got tired of waiting for the Cavs to put some good complimentary players around him imo. I've never blamed him for leaving. He didn't get much help from the front office in Cleveland.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:24 PM   #127
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I could see why a Cards fan would be mad. But it's hard to mad at a guy who has done so much for the team and the city.
yep...he's a great player and i believe he's a great person. but once he signs w/another team, he'll never be the greatest cardinal. i hoped to see him try to be that, but oh well.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:25 PM   #128
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10 years? No thanks if I am the Cards. Up the annual money and go 7.

Maybe 8. No more. Anyone giving him 10 years is nuts and I am a huge Cards fan.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:25 PM   #129
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One thing people have to understand is this is a Jim Thome situation... MLB union won't allow hometown discounts...
I'm not sure about that. On a much smaller scale Bruce Chen reportedly re-signed with KC for a little less than another offer. There's mention of it in the repository thread somewhere.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:26 PM   #130
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If he does leave St. Louis, it would be a good time for the Royals to start winning. They could recoup alot of the bandwagoners who hopped on the Cardinals train.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:27 PM   #131
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No, totally, totally different situations.

I like the Cardinals and hope Pujols stays. But how can you blame him for wanting more money at this stage in his career? He's earned that right. Lebron, on the other hand, promised Cleveland a championship and then chicken-shitted out so he can buy a championship. And unless Pujols makes some kind of a chicken shit announcement on national TV, he'll do it with more character than Lebron did too.

I could see why a Cards fan would be mad. But it's hard to mad at a guy who has done so much for the team and the city.
I guess so. I just see it as look what the team and city has done for Albert. He has a chance to be "the" Cardinal. Not a Cardinal, "the" Cardinal. I guess in my eyes as a big Cardinal fan that would be worth more to me than the money.

Also how much more money are we talking in Miami? I havne't really paid attention to that.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:31 PM   #132
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I guess so. I just see it as look what the team and city has done for Albert. He has a chance to be "the" Cardinal. Not a Cardinal, "the" Cardinal. I guess in my eyes as a big Cardinal fan that would be worth more to me than the money.

Also how much more money are we talking in Miami? I havne't really paid attention to that.
There was a report of $230 mill but it's unconfirmed I think.

I agree with you though... I hate the Cardinals but Pujols should stay there and be the man. It's not like he's going to run out of money with what they can pay. I appreciate guys who are loyal to teams/citys that are good to them.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:32 PM   #133
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Pretty sure Nightengale's source is called either Dan or Mr. Lozano by Nightengale. The "Mystery Team" tm deal is agent baloney. There are 7,000 reporters down there and nobody has chased down the team? It doesn't exist.
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Old 12-06-2011, 08:33 PM   #134
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Read an interesting article that a lot of these moves might be a way of invigorating the hispanic fan base in Miami. If that's the case, and it's actually kind of brilliant, then I don't see that fan base being the same as the shitty fan base that roots for the Heat or the Dolphins.

Not to say that they want Pujols for his hispanic descent. Guillen, Reyes, Pujols... this is quickly becoming Latin America's team. And it's the perfect market to do that.
this is a city where a pro soccer team flopped (pretty sure it was full of Latin players), there IS no market here. People here are too self involved to give a shit about pro sports. This is just throwing good money after bad.
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Pretty sure Nightengale's source is called either Dan or Mr. Lozano by Nightengale. The "Mystery Team" tm deal is agent baloney. There are 7,000 reporters down there and nobody has chased down the team? It doesn't exist.
Cubs maybe?
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