Weather NOAA Warning of "Frankenstorm" for NYC - Page 9

**gblowfish** · 10-25-2012, 03:37 PM

Next week, hurricane winds with snow. I'm sure NYC will handle that well...
Story is here:
http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-east-bewa...171317994.html

WASHINGTON (AP) — An unusual nasty mix of a hurricane and a winter storm that forecasters are now calling "Frankenstorm" is likely to blast most of the East Coast next week, focusing the worst of its weather mayhem around New York City and New Jersey.

Government forecasters on Thursday upped the odds of a major weather mess, now saying there's a 90 percent chance that the East will get steady gale-force winds, heavy rain, flooding and maybe snow starting Sunday and stretching past Halloween on Wednesday.

Meteorologists say it is likely to cause $1 billion in damage.

The storm is a combination of Hurricane Sandy, now in the Caribbean, an early winter storm in the West, and a blast of arctic air from the North. They're predicted to collide and park over the country's most populous coastal corridor and reach as far inland as Ohio.

The hurricane part of the storm is likely to come ashore somewhere in New Jersey on Tuesday morning, said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecaster Jim Cisco. But this is a storm that will affect a far wider area, so people all along the East have to be wary, Cisco said.

Coastal areas from Florida to Maine will feel some effects, mostly from the hurricane part, he said, and the other parts of the storm will reach inland from North Carolina northward.

Once the hurricane part of the storm hits, "it will get broader. It won't be as intense, but its effects will be spread over a very large area," the National Hurricane Center's chief hurricane specialist, James Franklin, said Thursday.

One of the more messy aspects of the expected storm is that it just won't leave. The worst of it should peak early Tuesday, but it will stretch into midweek, forecasters say. Weather may start clearing in the mid-Atlantic the day after Halloween and Nov. 2 in the Northeast, Cisco said.

"It's almost a weeklong, five-day, six-day event," Cisco said Thursday from NOAA's northern storm forecast center in College Park, Md. "It's going to be a widespread serious storm."

With every hour, meteorologists are getting more confident that this storm is going to be bad and they're able to focus their forecasts more.

The New York area could see around 5 inches of rain during the storm, while there could be snow southwest of where it comes inland, Cisco said. That could mean snow in eastern Ohio, southwestern Pennsylvania, western Virginia, and the Shenandoah Mountains, he said.

Both private and federal meteorologists are calling this a storm that will likely go down in the history books.

"We don't have many modern precedents for what the models are suggesting," Cisco said.

It is likely to hit during a full moon when tides are near their highest, increasing coastal flooding potential, NOAA forecasts warn. And with some trees still leafy and the potential for snow, power outages could last to Election Day, some meteorologists fear.

Some have compared it to the so-called Perfect Storm that struck off the coast of New England in 1991, but Cisco said that one didn't hit as populated an area and is not comparable to what the East Coast may be facing. Nor is it like last year's Halloween storm, which was merely an early snowstorm in the Northeast.

"The Perfect Storm only did $200 million of damage and I'm thinking a billion," said Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the private service Weather Underground. "Yeah, it will be worse."

But this is several days in advance, when weather forecasts are usually far less accurate. The National Hurricane Center only predicts five days in advance, and each long-range forecast moves Sandy's track closer to the coast early next week. The latest has the storm just off central New Jersey's shore at 8 a.m. on Tuesday.

As forecasts became more focused Thursday, the chance of the storm bypassing much of the coast and coming ashore in Maine faded, Cisco said.

The hurricane center's Franklin called it "a big mess for an awful lot of people in the early part of next week."

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-27-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

100k is a lot dude. I'd imagine living in a high rise in NYC would cost a lot even a small one would cost 800-900 a month unless you live in housing projects

100k is a lot. But it's not rich.

FlaChief58 · 10-27-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Come on man you're from FL, you should have this shit down already. The tub should be filled with ice to chill the beer for the Hurricane party.

That's about right

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-27-2012, 06:35 PM

Rent in NYC is ridiculously high.

A nice 1 bedroom will cost you $2000+/mo.

tk13 · 10-27-2012, 06:36 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44004150...foot-apartment

Right there's what $800/month in NY will get you.

Ace Gunner · 10-27-2012, 06:50 PM

I have relatives, 3 fams living in brooklyn & lower east side manhattan. They all packed into SUV's and left for upstate NY today. I hope you folks living in the city get through this okay. It's still looking like a serious condition.

**Bwana** · 10-27-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

God I hope they are prepared this time around. Should be an adventure, but at least I'll have time to finish reading The Walking Dead now.

Dude, THEY aren't the ones than need to be prepared, YOU are the one that needs to get ready for this. From the sounds of it, the power could be out for a long time. At least there is plenty of time to get ready before it hits.

Aries Walker · 10-27-2012, 07:31 PM

Yes, but being in Montana, you may not know the full depth of how poorly organized Pepco - Potomac Electric Power Company, the ones who bring power to my house in the DC suburbs - really is. I don't know who Pasadena has, but Pepco has done pretty poorly in the preparedness department in the past.

**Dave Lane** · 10-27-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

100k is a lot dude. I'd imagine living in a high rise in NYC would cost a lot even a small one would cost 800-900 a month unless you live in housing projects

Boy are you deluded...

**Bwana** · 10-27-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

Yes, but being in Montana, you may not know the full depth of how poorly organized Pepco - Potomac Electric Power Company, the ones who bring power to my house in the DC suburbs - really is. I don't know who Pasadena has, but Pepco has done pretty poorly in the preparedness department in the past.

What I'm trying to say is you know it's on its way, get ready for it. Water, food, blankets, etc. If you have your ducks in a row, it may be a pain in the ass, but you will be alright.

As far as the grid, it's all in tough shape across the country. One of my accounts is PPL, a coal fired power plant and they are in the same boat.

GloryDayz · 10-27-2012, 07:45 PM

Just hang on tight....

Aries Walker · 10-27-2012, 07:46 PM

The apartment I just had in Indy was about 750 a month. The same apartment here in the DC suburbs is about twice that. Make it triple downtown, and places like New York and San Francisco are several steps higher than that.

For $100K a year in Indianapolis, you can live like a king. In the big cities, not so much.

**notorious** · 10-27-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Boy are you deluded...

Nah, he just hasn't lived outside of his safe-zone.

**mdchiefsfan** · 10-27-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

What I'm trying to say is you know it's on its way, get ready for it. Water, food, blankets, etc. If you have your ducks in a row, it may be a pain in the ass, but you will be alright.

As far as the grid, it's all in tough shape across the country. One of my accounts is PPL, a coal fired power plant and they are in the same boat.

I mean it's kind of obvious I should be prepared for whatever happens and I am. I just hope they have their shit together as well.

**notorious** · 10-27-2012, 07:49 PM

I don't understand why a house that costs 3-400k in kansas costs well over a million to build in another area.

Do building materials cost more? Insurance? I know property value is higher, but does it really skew it THAT much?

**Bwana** · 10-27-2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I mean it's kind of obvious I should be prepared for whatever happens and I am. I just hope they have their shit together as well.

Snow/stong winds means there is going to be a lot of lines down, (some place) no two ways around it. It takes time to clear that many branches and re-hang the lines. Hey the main part of the storm may not hit your exact area, so none of that may happen, but someone is going to have to deal with it.

10-25-2012, 03:37 PM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17606178 VARSITY	NOAA Warning of "Frankenstorm" for NYC Next week, hurricane winds with snow. I'm sure NYC will handle that well... Story is here: http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-east-bewa...171317994.html WASHINGTON (AP) — An unusual nasty mix of a hurricane and a winter storm that forecasters are now calling "Frankenstorm" is likely to blast most of the East Coast next week, focusing the worst of its weather mayhem around New York City and New Jersey. Government forecasters on Thursday upped the odds of a major weather mess, now saying there's a 90 percent chance that the East will get steady gale-force winds, heavy rain, flooding and maybe snow starting Sunday and stretching past Halloween on Wednesday. Meteorologists say it is likely to cause $1 billion in damage. The storm is a combination of Hurricane Sandy, now in the Caribbean, an early winter storm in the West, and a blast of arctic air from the North. They're predicted to collide and park over the country's most populous coastal corridor and reach as far inland as Ohio. The hurricane part of the storm is likely to come ashore somewhere in New Jersey on Tuesday morning, said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecaster Jim Cisco. But this is a storm that will affect a far wider area, so people all along the East have to be wary, Cisco said. Coastal areas from Florida to Maine will feel some effects, mostly from the hurricane part, he said, and the other parts of the storm will reach inland from North Carolina northward. Once the hurricane part of the storm hits, "it will get broader. It won't be as intense, but its effects will be spread over a very large area," the National Hurricane Center's chief hurricane specialist, James Franklin, said Thursday. One of the more messy aspects of the expected storm is that it just won't leave. The worst of it should peak early Tuesday, but it will stretch into midweek, forecasters say. Weather may start clearing in the mid-Atlantic the day after Halloween and Nov. 2 in the Northeast, Cisco said. "It's almost a weeklong, five-day, six-day event," Cisco said Thursday from NOAA's northern storm forecast center in College Park, Md. "It's going to be a widespread serious storm." With every hour, meteorologists are getting more confident that this storm is going to be bad and they're able to focus their forecasts more. The New York area could see around 5 inches of rain during the storm, while there could be snow southwest of where it comes inland, Cisco said. That could mean snow in eastern Ohio, southwestern Pennsylvania, western Virginia, and the Shenandoah Mountains, he said. Both private and federal meteorologists are calling this a storm that will likely go down in the history books. "We don't have many modern precedents for what the models are suggesting," Cisco said. It is likely to hit during a full moon when tides are near their highest, increasing coastal flooding potential, NOAA forecasts warn. And with some trees still leafy and the potential for snow, power outages could last to Election Day, some meteorologists fear. Some have compared it to the so-called Perfect Storm that struck off the coast of New England in 1991, but Cisco said that one didn't hit as populated an area and is not comparable to what the East Coast may be facing. Nor is it like last year's Halloween storm, which was merely an early snowstorm in the Northeast. "The Perfect Storm only did $200 million of damage and I'm thinking a billion," said Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the private service Weather Underground. "Yeah, it will be worse." But this is several days in advance, when weather forecasts are usually far less accurate. The National Hurricane Center only predicts five days in advance, and each long-range forecast moves Sandy's track closer to the coast early next week. The latest has the storm just off central New Jersey's shore at 8 a.m. on Tuesday. As forecasts became more focused Thursday, the chance of the storm bypassing much of the coast and coming ashore in Maine faded, Cisco said. The hurricane center's Franklin called it "a big mess for an awful lot of people in the early part of next week."
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Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9583357	Yes, but being in Montana, you may not know the full depth of how poorly organized Pepco - Potomac Electric Power Company, the ones who bring power to my house in the DC suburbs - really is. I don't know who Pasadena has, but Pepco has done pretty poorly in the preparedness department in the past.
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Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9583357	The apartment I just had in Indy was about 750 a month. The same apartment here in the DC suburbs is about twice that. Make it triple downtown, and places like New York and San Francisco are several steps higher than that. For $100K a year in Indianapolis, you can live like a king. In the big cities, not so much.
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