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Old 02-15-2013, 09:06 AM  
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Jake Long not at top of FA LT list


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2. Jake Long
2012 Grade: -0.4
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Summary: Two years ago Jake Long was playing in a manner that made many hesitate when judging the Miami Dolphins for passing on Matt Ryan; the Falcons’ signal-caller was elite, but so was Jake Long at the “crucial” position of left tackle. Right now Long is just another example of the “what have you done for me lately” attitude in this league, with the Dolphins seemingly set to let him walk rather than pay him mega-bucks to hang around. Remember, two years ago Long was coming off of three consecutive seasons with a PFF grade of +30.0 or greater and was in the conversation as the league’s best left tackle.

Now, after two injury-affected seasons, Long has seen his performances and his league-wide stock slip somewhat to the extent that some may view him as damaged goods. Even so, Long is still a more than capable left tackle and with the knowledge of the “upside” of the first three years of his career it wouldn’t be a surprise to see someone take a risk on him.

Though he didn’t match his prior level this season, his issue was a couple of dodgy games in pass protection that accounted for a combined -7.4 pass protection grade, as he yielded two sacks, four hits, and four hurries to the Colts and Seahawks. If Long’s value is driven low and he can put the injuries behind him, someone could get a steal here. If not, someone could waste a lot of money on a worn down player entering a downward spiral.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:15 PM   #121
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it was the playoff game where they did not score 1 ****ing point during the entire second half.
You're going to have to be more specific. Are you talking about Tom Brady, RGIII, or Matt Ryan, because all three of them did that in the 2012 playoffs. Not a legit QB in the bunch.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:34 PM   #122
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Matt Ryan isn't going anywhere, Dane.

I'll bet anything on the fact that he will be a Falcon in 2014.

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Old 03-11-2013, 06:38 PM   #123
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I can't believe anyone with a brain would try to argue that the Dolphins wouldn't be better with Matt Ryan over Jake Long.

Matt went to a 2 win team and Long went to a 1 win team.

The Falcons made the playoffs the very next year and every year since...how about Miami?
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:49 PM   #124
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I can't believe anyone with a brain would try to argue that the Dolphins wouldn't be better with Matt Ryan over Jake Long.

Matt went to a 2 win team and Long went to a 1 win team.

The Falcons made the playoffs the very next year and every year since...how about Miami?
JFC.

Yeah, that Miami team would have been completely different with Ryan.
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:52 PM   #125
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:53 PM   #126
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JFC.

Yeah, that Miami team would have been completely different with Ryan.
They've averaged eight wins a season since Ryan was drafted while starting Pennington, Henne, Moore, and Tannehill with top 10 scoring defenses 3 of those 5 seasons.

Yeah, I think Ryan might have helped. You watch football, right?
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Interesting
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They've averaged eight wins a season since Ryan was drafted while starting Pennington, Henne, Moore, and Tannehill with top 10 scoring defenses 3 of those 5 seasons.

Yeah, I think Ryan might have helped. You watch football, right?
Apparently, more than you.
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JFC.

Yeah, that Miami team would have been completely different with Ryan.
They absolutely would.

Are you saying that the Falcons were just this powerhouse team that was gonna go to the playoffs 5 straight years, no matter what, after losing 14 games that year regardless of the pick, but that the 1 win Dolphins were beyond that kind of turnaround?

Is that the dumb shit you're saying tonight?

WTF?

Chad Pennington won 11 games for Miami in 2008.
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OMG, look at all the offensive picks the Falcons have used. They drafted an offensive player in 2009 just a year after drafting Matt Ryan. They blew all their high draft picks in 2008 leaving them with only two first rounders, a second rounder, and three third rounders!!!

They even spent a first round draft pick on offense once since 2008!!!!
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They absolutely would.

Are you saying that the Falcons were just this powerhouse team that was gonna go to the playoffs 5 straight years, no matter what, after losing 14 games that year regardless of the pick, but that the 1 win Dolphins were beyond that kind of turnaround?

Is that the dumb shit you're saying tonight?

WTF?

Chad Pennington won 11 games for Miami in 2008.
Dane and Buzz Tin Ballz are just owning this thread. They must watch the games together, because their football knowledge is on another level.
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They absolutely would.

Are you saying that the Falcons were just this powerhouse team that was gonna go to the playoffs 5 straight years, no matter what, after losing 14 games that year regardless of the pick, but that the 1 win Dolphins were beyond that kind of turnaround?

Is that the dumb shit you're saying tonight?

WTF?

Chad Pennington won 11 games for Miami in 2008.
Atlanta was shit in 2007 because of the whole Vick situation as well as Petrino bailing on the team.
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Wish we got to draft Matt Ryan. He is on the verge of breaking into elite status.


Dolphins would have been better off pickng Matt Ryan for sure. Any one who thinks they were better off with Jake Long is FOS.
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Matt Ryan holds the record for most wins by a QB in his first 5 seasons. He sucks.
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Prior to Ryan's arrival Atlanta had never had 2 winning seasons in a row. He's not 50/50 to return, he's 100% to return with a $100,000,000 extension.

I watch a lot of Atlanta games since that's where I live. They made strides this year, with their big coordinator switch, but they have been the most boring, dull team to watch. The problem isn't Ryan, it's been piss poor coaching, and a piss poor defense. They love the 'Michael Turner 2 yards and a cloud of dust' approach, even though they're a dome team.

Ryan's a good QB. I think people see a better team around him than he really has.
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