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Old 02-28-2013, 07:27 PM  
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Vontae Davis may or may not have gotten on Twitter yesterday and blurted out that the Kansas City Chiefs are already negotiating a contract with soon-to-be free agent Sean Smith. Smith and Davis are friends from their days in Miami together. Both were drafted by the Dolphins in 2009. Davis was traded to the Indianapolis Colts in 2012.

Shortly after Davis's Twitter account all but stated that the Chiefs were violating NFL rules regarding tampering, Davis's account sent out the seemingly laughable excuse that it had been hacked. Well, this prompted Sean Smith to address the issue:


Smith then posted this (it's too long to embed the entire tweet):

Ok this is getting out of hand, I've never talked to any other team besides the Miami Dolphins. Yes I talked to vontae and I told him Al Harris (our former coach) got the job up in KC and that I talked to him a few days ago to tell him congrats. That's it! Now why he interpreted that as "talking to KC" idk but there is NOTHING going on! This is ridiculous
OK. That's understandable. So, what about the whole Vontae's Twitter account got hacked thing?


So, you're essentially saying Vontae lied to cover his ass and yours? That's just how I'm reading it.

And if it was just a simple misunderstanding, why did Sean Smith block Miami Herald reporter Armando Salguero in Twitter? I mean, all Salguero did was report on what happened. Even Smith's agent seemingly got a little testy with Salguero over the incident. The Miami reporter did what any decent journalist would do in this situation and contacted agent David Canter for a comment. Canter responded with this lovely little gem:

"Don’t believe everything players tell you Armando. Rule number 1 of football journalism."
Really? I had no idea Smith's agent went to journalism school! And is there such a thing as "football journalism?" Does it have its own separate set of rules? Is one of them not believing the words sent out by a verified NFL player's Twitter account?

Look, maybe I'm reading too much into this, but if Smith is acting so douchey about a reporter actually reporting on something that may or may not be tampering, that kind of suggests that maybe the smoke sent up yesterday might have some fire.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:44 PM   #121
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3/20/2012: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. The deal contains $9 million guaranteed -- an initial roster bonus of $3 million, all of Smith's 2012 base salary, and $1 million of his 2013 salary. Another $9 million is available through incentives, though $5.25 million of them are "unlikely to be earned." An annual $250,000 workout bonus is available. 2013: $7.5 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due in March), 2014: $7.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

Where did you read that the deal is fully guaranteed?


If he is that good, why aren't the Dolphins locking him up when they have 31 million in cap space?
because he is inconsistent as hell, and is asking for way more than he is worth.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:50 PM   #122
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3/20/2012: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. The deal contains $9 million guaranteed -- an initial roster bonus of $3 million, all of Smith's 2012 base salary, and $1 million of his 2013 salary. Another $9 million is available through incentives, though $5.25 million of them are "unlikely to be earned." An annual $250,000 workout bonus is available. 2013: $7.5 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due in March), 2014: $7.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

Where did you read that the deal is fully guaranteed?

2012: $5 million base salary (fully guaranteed), $3 million roster bonus, $1.25 million in likely to be earned incentives, $1.75 million in unlikely to be earned incentives
2013: $7.5 million base salary (fully guaranteed), $1 million roster bonus, $1.25 million in likely to be earned incentives, $1.75 million in unlikely to be earned incentives
2014: $7.5 million base salary (not guaranteed), $1.25 million in likely to be earned incentives, $1.75 million in unlikely to be earned incentives

AFTER APRIL 1st his 2013 base salary is FULLY guaranteed. So he gets 8 million dollars before even taking a snap as a Chief, so if it's week 3 and Alex Smith gets another concussion or blows his arm out or whatever injury prone nonsense that usually happens to him, we are on the hook for a full salary for this season. the 49ers needed to move him before that date so they didnt have to eat the full 7.5 on their books for this season. We essentially gave them cap relief and they fleeced us for a 2nd rounder

now we are on the hook for a full Alex Smith salary for the 2013 season, plus more if he hits is escalators.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:54 PM   #123
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You could use that same logic against more than half of the free agents out there.
not really

i dont see many other 25 year old FAs out there right now like Sean Smith.

Guys that young with that much potential rarely hit FA.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:54 PM   #124
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not really

i dont see many other 25 year old FAs out there right now like Sean Smith.

Guys that young with that much potential rarely hit FA.
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he said half the FAs out there not "one guy last year that only walked because our idiot GM at the time."

it is very obvious that if Dorsey and Reid were here a year earlier that Carr would be locked up
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:58 PM   #126
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he said half the FAs out there not "one guy last year that only walked because our idiot GM at the time."

it is very obvious that if Dorsey and Reid were here a year earlier that Carr would be locked up
You do know Jeff Ireland is one of the worse GM right?
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You do know Jeff Ireland is one of the worse GM right?
Indeed. He is. Hes about to make another mistake with paying 10 mil + for mike wallace, while having no secondary.
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it boggles the mind......im sure alex smith is thrilled to be leaving a franchise he has known for 8 years, and coming to the worst team in football.
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Again, bring something better to the table than just saying the 49ers were the worst team in football until Alex Smith was replaced. That's just not the case.

Bring stuff like the 49ers were not winning with Smith when/because...

There is plenty of those stats floating around here.

But this case against Smith is weak at best.

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12 - 6-2-1

Again, bring something better to the table than just saying the 49ers were the worst team in football until Alex Smith was replaced. That's just not the case.

Bring stuff like the 49ers were not winning with Smith when/because...

There is plenty of those stats floating around here.

But this case against Smith is weak at best.

05 - 4-12...Game Starts...7 (W-2)
06 - 7-9.......................16 (W-7)
07 - 5-11.......................7 (W-2)
08 - 7-9........................0 (W-0)
09 - 8-8.......................10 (W-5)
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11 -13-3.......................16 (W-13)

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07 - 5-11.......................7 (W-2)
08 - 7-9........................0 (W-0)
09 - 8-8.......................10 (W-5)
10 - 6-10......................10 (W-3)
11 -13-3.......................16 (W-13)

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And they were 6-2-1 with him as a starter last season. Your case that the 49ers were the worst team in football until Smith was replaced is very weak.

I'm not saying the 49ers were winning because of Smith. Not at all. But to say they turned it around once he was replaced...
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