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Old 03-10-2014, 10:55 AM   #1
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I think the 2008 draft hurts a ton. Could have taken:

Ryan Clady over Glenn Dorsey.

Aquib Talib/DRC over Albert.

Then, here's the kicker:

Calais Campbell over Flowers.

Clady>> Albert

Talib/DRC>> Flowers

Campbell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dorsey
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:01 PM   #2
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I think the 2008 draft hurts a ton. Could have taken:

Ryan Clady over Glenn Dorsey.

Aquib Talib/DRC over Albert.

Then, here's the kicker:

Calais Campbell over Flowers.

Clady>> Albert

Talib/DRC>> Flowers

Campbell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dorsey
Yeah. You can play this game with any draft any year. You're the first I've seen to question the Flowers pick. Also Charles >>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone you mentioned.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:10 PM   #3
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Yeah. You can play this game with any draft any year. You're the first I've seen to question the Flowers pick. Also Charles >>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone you mentioned.
Over Talib and DRC? Certainly.

But Clady and Campbell? No way.

Clady was arguably the best LT in the NFL prior to his injury. Great LTs are harder to find than a great RB.

Campbell is one of the most disruptive DL players of this generation and that's coming from the 5-tech position.

I wouldn't hesitate to trade Charles for either of them.

A great RB is a hell of a lot easier to replace than a great DL or OL player.

We could have gotten all 3 of those guys plus Charles in the 3rd still.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:20 PM   #4
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Over Talib and DRC? Certainly.

But Clady and Campbell? No way.

Clady was arguably the best LT in the NFL prior to his injury. Great LTs are harder to find than a great RB.

Campbell is one of the most disruptive DL players of this generation and that's coming from the 5-tech position.

I wouldn't hesitate to trade Charles for either of them.

A great RB is a hell of a lot easier to replace than a great DL or OL player.

We could have gotten all 3 of those guys plus Charles in the 3rd still.
I think you're overrating Campbell, but that's me. My point is in most drafts for every team, you'll find a better player than the one you took, later in the draft. The 2008 draft was really good. To say it hurt us, is nuts.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:22 PM   #5
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Over Talib and DRC? Certainly.

But Clady and Campbell? No way.

Clady was arguably the best LT in the NFL prior to his injury. Great LTs are harder to find than a great RB.

Campbell is one of the most disruptive DL players of this generation and that's coming from the 5-tech position.

I wouldn't hesitate to trade Charles for either of them.

A great RB is a hell of a lot easier to replace than a great DL or OL player.

We could have gotten all 3 of those guys plus Charles in the 3rd still.
You would have picked Clady at #5?
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:23 AM   #6
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Carr wanted to be a hometown Cowboy & it looks like Albert wants to be a hometown Dolphin. THere is now accounting for taste.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:42 AM   #7
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:51 AM   #8
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:00 PM   #9
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And by all means, be the GM that drafts the mediocre Milliner #1 overall when you just signed FAs Sean Smith and Dunta Robinson. Yeah, woulda been such a good move.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:02 PM   #10
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And by all means, be the GM that drafts the mediocre Milliner #1 overall when you just signed FAs Sean Smith and Dunta Robinson. Yeah, woulda been such a good move.
Better than drafting a mediocre right tackle when you already had Branden Albert, Donald Stephenson, and 3 other high draft picks on the line.

You're not going to win this argument. Fisher was a horrible pick. There's no other way to look at it unless you're just a ****ing homer.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:09 PM   #11
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Better than drafting a mediocre right tackle when you already had Branden Albert, Donald Stephenson, and 3 other high draft picks on the line.

You're not going to win this argument. Fisher was a horrible pick. There's no other way to look at it unless you're just a ****ing homer.
They had to choose between Albert and Bowe. After they chose Bowe, keeping Albert was never going to be an option going forward. This year, we would have never been able to afford Veldeer or Munroe either. If we hadn't taken Fisher, we would be looking at taking an OT in this year's first round and probably at pick #23. Fisher is going to be better than Cyrus Kouandjio and that's exactly who we'd be looking at in this draft if we passed on an OT in 2013.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:10 PM   #12
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They had to choose between Albert and Bowe. After they chose Bowe, keeping Albert was never going to be an option going forward. We wouldn't be able to afford Veldeer or Munroe if we couldn't afford Albert. If we hadn't taken Fisher, we would be looking at taking an OT in this year's first round and probably at pick #23. Fisher is going to be better than Cyrus Kouandjio and that's exactly who we'd be looking at in this draft if we passed on an OT in 2013.
Fisher isn't better than Donald Stephenson, a THIRD round pick.

Nothing you said here is even remotely true. 100% speculation.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:14 PM   #13
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They had to choose between Albert and Bowe. After they chose Bowe, keeping Albert was never going to be an option going forward. This year, we would have never been able to afford Veldeer or Munroe either. If we hadn't taken Fisher, we would be looking at taking an OT in this year's first round and probably at pick #23. Fisher is going to be better than Cyrus Kouandjio and that's exactly who we'd be looking at in this draft if we passed on an OT in 2013.
This argument really doesn't work. Just because the cost of Albert was going to become too prohibitive doesn't mean they have to use a Round 1 pick to replace him.

Nothing says the Chiefs would need to find a RT in the first round or even in the draft, period, had they not drafted Fisher.

Good OL can be found all over the place. Including the 3rd round and later.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:23 PM   #14
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This argument really doesn't work. Just because the cost of Albert was going to become too prohibitive doesn't mean they have to use a Round 1 pick to replace him.

Nothing says the Chiefs would need to find a RT in the first round or even in the draft, period, had they not drafted Fisher.

Good OL can be found all over the place. Including the 3rd round and later.
So you want to give two seconds for the first franchise QB you've had in a about a decade and bank on finding that gem of a 3rd round OT? Most GMs just aren't going to go that route. That's a good way to get fired.

Also, if they thought Stephenson was starting LT material, they wouldn't have drafted Fisher imo. I'm sure he got a good look.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:06 PM   #15
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By the way, that's a perfect example of a "2nd place attitude".

You'd rather win in the regular season consistently than win it all. Talk about defeatist.
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