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Old 05-16-2014, 03:01 PM  
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Robert Mathis out 4 games PED's

@AdamSchefter: NFL suspended Colts' pass rusher Robert Mathis four games for violating policy on performance enhancing substances.

Cost him a little over $700,000

Update:@NFL_ATL: Mathis: Fertility drug caused failed test http://t.co/xtN51e8Nm7

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Old 05-19-2014, 08:11 AM   #121
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completely and utterly not true

there have already been several ways it effects fans/people, you just reject them because YOU don't care about them
How does Robert Mathis taking Clomid have any effect on you?
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:12 AM   #122
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completely absurd

a physician prescribing something and not knowing the primary direct/indirect effects of that substance on the human body?
Happens all the time. They know it does one thing so they prescribe it. You really think that they have knowledge of everything that every drug does?
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:13 AM   #123
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completely absurd

a physician prescribing something and not knowing the primary direct/indirect effects of that substance on the human body?
There are over 800,000 licensed physicians in the US. It would be absurd to make such broad statements that are applicable to each and every one of us.

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Old 05-19-2014, 08:16 AM   #124
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completely and utterly not true

there have already been several ways it effects fans/people, you just reject them because YOU don't care about them
Somebody is being naive
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:52 AM   #125
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Happens all the time. They know it does one thing so they prescribe it. You really think that they have knowledge of everything that every drug does?
PRIMARY effect

we aren't talking about some minor side effect


1. Clomid raises testosterone
2. Testosterone effects physically ability

what doctor does not know these 2 things?

shit ... what human being hasn't heard about Lance Armstrong and using testosterone to help be a better cyclist or dozens of other stories about it. Barry Bonds,Jose Canseco etc

what 1st year med student doesn't know that testosterone increases physical ability in males?


people are looking for excuses
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:00 AM   #126
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PRIMARY effect

we aren't talking about some minor side effect


1. Clomid raises testosterone
2. Testosterone effects physically ability

what doctor does not know these 2 things?

shit ... what human being hasn't heard about Lance Armstrong and using testosterone to help be a better cyclist or dozens of other stories about it. Barry Bonds,Jose Canseco etc

what 1st year med student doesn't know that testosterone increases physical ability in males?


people are looking for excuses
You are the only one looking for excuses. Again, this has no impact on your life.
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:17 AM   #127
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PRIMARY effect

we aren't talking about some minor side effect


1. Clomid raises testosterone
2. Testosterone effects physically ability

what doctor does not know these 2 things?
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what 1st year med student doesn't know that testosterone increases physical ability in males?
why dont you find out for yourself. There is ~ 25,000 1st yr medical students, and over 800,000 licensed physicians.

many of your posts in this thread are based on assumptions and not fact.


you are viewing this from a limited perspective. Mathis's physician was likely focused on treating his low sperm count which was believed to be due to low testosterone (based on the info provided). It can be very easy for a fertility doc to not even consider that such a medication would have a negative affect on his occupation due to a policy at Mathis employer. Rarely is that info pertinent.

we dont know the extent of Mathis conversation with his physician regarding clomid and policy of the nfl on banned substances. We only have mathis claim regarding the matter.

your repeated assumptions at this point is just making you look like an ass.

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shit ... what human being hasn't heard about Lance Armstrong and using testosterone to help be a better cyclist or dozens of other stories about it. Barry Bonds,Jose Canseco etc
surprise, many people do not follow sports.
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:24 AM   #128
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:31 AM   #129
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why dont you find out for yourself. There is ~ 25,000 1st yr medical students, and over 800,000 licensed physicians.

many of your posts in this thread are based on assumptions and not fact.


you are viewing this from a limited perspective. Mathis's physician was likely focused on treating his low sperm count which was believed to be due to low testosterone (based on the info provided). It can be very easy for a fertility doc to not even consider that such a medication would have a negative affect on his occupation due to a policy at Mathis employer. Rarely is that info pertinent.

we dont know the extent of Mathis conversation with his physician regarding clomid and policy of the nfl on banned substances. We only have mathis claim regarding the matter.

your repeated assumptions at this point is just making you look like an ass.

surprise, many people do not follow sports.
oh look ... a disingenuous doctor that's an arrogant,condescending prick

color me shocked
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:32 AM   #130
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