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**OnTheWarpath15** · 11:10 PM

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.

I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.

Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36

Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

**Rausch** · 09-06-2012, 11:08 AM

I'd put him at about the 8-11 range...

Chiefnj2 · 09-06-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Just saw this posted today and if this is already posted but buried among the previous 93 pages I apologize.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, Bowe is second in the NFL on receiving the highest percentage of his team’s red zone targets in the past two seasons. He is ranked over than same time span in red zone receiving touchdowns.

Makes sense. There hasn't been any other receiver playing on the team the last two years.

No Breaston in 2010. No Moeaki in 2011.

Black Bob · 09-06-2012, 11:23 AM

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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?

He doesn't rank amoung the elite receivers imo. He's not elite. The rest of those guys make the play when the game is on the line and the team needs it most. Bowe does not. He mostly just schools shitty WRs like Powers last year in Indy. He's a good receiver but is no where near great imo.

Deberg_1990 · 09-06-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

He doesn't rank amoung the elite receivers imo. He's not elite. The rest of those guys make the play when the game is on the line and the team needs it most. Bowe does not. He mostly just schools shitty WRs like Powers last year in Indy. He's a good receiver but is no where near great imo.

Heh, I always get a chuckle when guys say stuff like this. Those guys drop passes and make mistakes to. Fans tend to critque and be harder on their own teams guys than they are on players from other teams.

ThaVirus · 09-06-2012, 11:53 AM

I had three different guys argue that Desean Jackson is better than Dwayne Bowe.

****ing preposterous.

ToxSocks · 09-06-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I had three different guys argue that Desean Jackson is better than Dwayne Bowe.

****ing preposterous.

Stupid people correlate Speed to skill.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-06-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

I'm a semen chugging troll.

Fixed

Black Bob · 09-06-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Heh, I always get a chuckle when guys say stuff like this. Those guys drop passes and make mistakes to. Fans tend to critque and be harder on their own teams guys than they are on players from other teams.

Yep but, they catch the big ones. Bowe has dropped some big ones. It's definately part of the reason he doesn't have a new contract.

Deberg_1990 · 09-06-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Yep but, they catch the big ones. Bowe has dropped some big ones. It's definately part of the reason he doesn't have a new contract.

Did you miss Welkers drop in the Super Bowl last year that would have sealed the game for the Pats?

Black Bob · 09-06-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Did you miss Welkers drop in the Super Bowl last year that would have sealed the game for the Pats?

I saw it and he doesn't have a contract either.

No, just kidding, it's obviously alot more than that. Welker has beaten Revis one on one in big games. Bowe has always struggled against good corners. Cromartie used to make fun of him, Asamough shut him down, and Champ has almost always gotten the best of him (except for the game they were killing u at halftime and the d-coordinator started pulling the corners way off the line).

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-06-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

Yep but, they catch the big ones. Bowe has dropped some big ones. It's definately part of the reason he doesn't have a new contract.

We're you conceived in a crackhouse?

MrNightly · 09-06-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

We're you conceived in a crackhouse?

You have serious issues, don't you?

Are you 15 years old? If you don't like somebody, feel free to keep it to yourself. Wow. The immaturity of this board never ceases to amaze me.

ThaVirus · 09-06-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Stupid people correlate Speed to skill.

Pretty much this. He plays for a better, more marketable team. Plus he's fast so his 75+ yard TDs are more likely to make SportsCenter.

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

I saw it and he doesn't have a contract either.

No, just kidding, it's obviously alot more than that. Welker has beaten Revis one on one in big games. Bowe has always struggled against good corners. Cromartie used to make fun of him, Asamough shut him down, and Champ has almost always gotten the best of him (except for the game they were killing u at halftime and the d-coordinator started pulling the corners way off the line).

That's because he plays with shitty QBs that either can't thread the needle or don't even try unless he's wide open by at least two steps. "Open" by Cassel/Huard/Palko/Thigpen standards is not the same as NFL "open".

**Rausch** · 09-06-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

Wow. The immaturity of this board never ceases to amaze me.

It's like Chicken Pox...

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-06-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

You have serious issues, don't you?

Are you 15 years old? If you don't like somebody, feel free to keep it to yourself. Wow. The immaturity of this board never ceases to amaze me.

I don't respond intelligently to trolls like Black Bob.

Are you a troll or a moron?

07-17-2012, 11:45 AM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4811115	How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's? Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this. I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league. What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years. I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's. Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe. Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49 Roddy White - 6422/42 Reggie Wayne - 6234/36 Wes Welker - 6105/31 Calvin Johnson - 5872/49 Andre Johnson - 5703/35 Greg Jennings - 5539/46 Steve Smith - 5353/29 Marques Colston - 5202/40 Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36 Personally, I think that's impressive on its own. Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons. Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems. It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game. Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play. After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play. I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game. Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league. Dude deserved elite money. Or, tl;dr - **** him. Last edited by OnTheWarpath15; 07-17-2012 at 11:10 PM..
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