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**Saul Good** · 01-09-2013, 08:42 PM

MIZ-SEC

BourbonMan · 02-20-2013, 09:00 AM

COLUMBIA — The University of Miami received the notice of allegations from the NCAA on Tuesday, and so did Missouri basketball coach Frank Haith, who was the Hurricanes’ coach at the time covered in the investigation.

But the big revelation: Haith said the notice did not include an unethical-conduct charge. The possibility of the charge, which could have been career damaging and prompted a decision about Haith’s employment at Missouri, was first reported last month by CBSSports.com.
It’s not known what, if any, charges were listed against Haith.
“Contrary to what was reported, there was no unethical conduct in my notice of allegation,” Haith said after the Tigers’ 63-60 victory over fifth-ranked Florida. “We get a chance to defend ourselves.”
Haith made the comment after he had risen to leave his happy postgame news conference. When he was peppered with questions about the notice, which started circulating during the game, Haith returned to his chair and spoke directly into the microphone.
“The biggest thing I want to tell you is I’m glad this thing is almost over,” Haith said.
Haith said he informed athletic director Mike Alden after the game, in the hallway outside of the interview room just before Haith met with reporters. Alden had told an ESPN reporter during the second half that Missouri hadn’t received a notice from Miami.
“Shoot, after 20 months, I think all of us are pleased that we can deal with it and move forward,” Alden said. “I’m looking forward to working with Frank for a long time.”
Alden had not seen the report when he spoke with reporters.
“He let me know just a little bit ago,” Alden said. “I’ll be glad we’ll get a chance to work together with Frank, to be able to look through it.”
The charges against Haith stemmed from an allegation by Miami booster Nevin Shapiro that a member of Haith’s staff paid $10,000 to the family of DeQuan Jones, a former player.
An unethical-conduct penalty could have led to a multiple-year, show-cause penalty by the NCAA, which essentially prevents schools from hiring coaches. Haith’s situation would have been unique. He had moved to another school before the results of the investigation.
But with no unethical-conduct charge, it’s a moot point.
Typically, schools and individuals named in the notice of allegations have 90 days to file a response, and that can be reviewed by the NCAA Committee on Infractions. Penalties could be announced months later.
Miami blasted the NCAA in a statement on Tuesday evening, claiming that many allegations “remain unsubstantiated.”
The university noted that many charges were brought forth by Shapiro, “a convicted con man,” and that the NCAA was responsible for damaging leaks of unsubstantiated allegations over the course of the investigations.
Miami received the NCAA’s notice one day after president Mark Emmert announced the findings of an external review of its enforcement staff. In the last few weeks, the NCAA has acknowledged that it paid Shapiro’s attorney to use subpoena power to depose witnesses who were unwilling to cooperate with the investigation.
The depositions were tossed from the case against Miami, and university president Donna Shalala said the school had no intention of accepting sanctions other than ones it has self-imposed.
As for Haith and Missouri, the major step toward resolution came as a relief.
“It’s certainly been an interesting time,” Alden said. “There are probably many of us out there, that have been surprised by a lot of things. For us, we’re glad there’s going to be some closure.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/20...#storylink=cpy

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-20-2013, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Kentucky up next. Not sure what to think about that game. They have lost a couple of games at home already this year, and lost their top player to injury. I think the game is winnable, and hope the Tigers start strong, but since it is a road game, part of me is still expecting the worst. Tigers have road games left at KY, TN, and SC....so they have a chance to put the road blues down if they can play well and win at least two out of three (if we beat KY, I think there is a good chance we could win all three).

Mizzou should beat Kentucky. Noel is a big loss for them and their guard play is terrible. Outscoring them isn't very difficult.

**Saul Good** · 02-20-2013, 09:31 AM

Kentucky is favored tonight by 10.5 over Vanderbilt. I don't understand that at all. That game strikes me as almost a toss-up.

mnchiefsguy · 02-20-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Kentucky is favored tonight by 10.5 over Vanderbilt. I don't understand that at all. That game strikes me as almost a toss-up.

Noticed that Gonzaga has replaced Florida as a #1 seed because of last night's game, yet somehow Bracketology still has Duke as a #1, despite their loss at Maryland over the weekend...and that Duke still trails Miami in the ACC, and lost to them by 40. Not sure what the logic is there.

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-20-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Noticed that Gonzaga has replaced Florida as a #1 seed because of last night's game, yet somehow Bracketology still has Duke as a #1, despite their loss at Maryland over the weekend...and that Duke still trails Miami in the ACC, and lost to them by 40. Not sure what the logic is there.

Meh. If Florida wins their remaining 5 games and has a good showing at the SEC-tournament I still think a 1-seed happens. I think Miami will lose a game or two (they've looked mediocre the past 3 games) and Indiana still has OSU & Michigan again plus the Big-Ten tournament.

**gblowfish** · 02-20-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Mizzou should beat Kentucky. Noel is a big loss for them and their guard play is terrible. Outscoring them isn't very difficult.

Mizzou is shit on the road. I bet they'll lose.

mnchiefsguy · 02-20-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Meh. If Florida wins their remaining 5 games and has a good showing at the SEC-tournament I still think a 1-seed happens. I think Miami will lose a game or two (they've looked mediocre the past 3 games) and Indiana still has OSU & Michigan again plus the Big-Ten tournament.

I can agree with that assessment. My main surprise was that Duke seems to be immovable from a #1 seed, even though they have not played all that well.

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-20-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

I can agree with that assessment. My main surprise was that Duke seems to be immovable from a #1 seed, even though they have not played all that well.

Yeah - doesn't make sense. To their credit though:

ESPN BPI (as of this morning):
1. Indiana
2. Florida
3. Duke

RPI:
1. Duke
2. Miami
3. New Mexico
4. Florida

However, before last night Duke was #8 in Pomeroy ratings. Florida was #1 (we'll see how far they fall) and Indiana #2.

**Saul Good** · 02-20-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

I can agree with that assessment. My main surprise was that Duke seems to be immovable from a #1 seed, even though they have not played all that well.

How do you figure they haven't played that well? 22-3 is pretty damned good. Michigan State and Florida just lost, and Gonzaga is 1-2 against ranked teams (with the win being a one point escape against Oklahoma State).

**Saul Good** · 02-20-2013, 10:17 AM

Actually, I guess they whooped KSU...

**Saul Good** · 02-20-2013, 10:20 AM

Holy shit...

Just looked at Gonzaga's schedule. They have played, and are undefeated against, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Baylor, and West Virginia. Can we go ahead and crown them Big 12 champs?

duncan_idaho · 02-20-2013, 10:59 AM

Whew. What a game and a big win.

Hopefully, the team can use this as a springboard. The biggest change/positive I saw last night was consistent, strong effort on D (a few exceptions, but much better than it has been).

When this team commits to playing D the way it can (looking at you, Pressey, Ross, Brown, Bowers), the ceiling is very high.

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-20-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Whew. What a game and a big win.

Hopefully, the team can use this as a springboard. The biggest change/positive I saw last night was consistent, strong effort on D (a few exceptions, but much better than it has been).

When this team commits to playing D the way it can (looking at you, Pressey, Ross, Brown, Bowers), the ceiling is very high.

They did a really nice job of forcing turnovers and denying the feed to Patric Young inside. Outside of that, Florida just shot poorly from 3pt and the foul line.

Codered · 02-20-2013, 11:20 AM

It was a big win and it came at the right time with going on the road with UK up next. Watching the end it all felt eerily similar to UCLA, Arkansas, Texas A&M ...

When they got that three up at the end I just automatically assumed it was going in.

For once Missouri over comes their rotten luck!

BourbonMan · 02-20-2013, 11:26 AM

COLUMBIA — Missouri basketball coach Frank Haith has finally received his notice of NCAA allegations, and although its full contents remain unclear, it appears he might be hit with a less-serious charge of failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance. Haith and his lawyer have not commented fully on what’s in the notice of allegations, other than to say that contrary to a CBSSports.com report a month ago, it does not include an unethical-conduct charge that could have led to the dreaded multiple-year, show-cause penalty by the NCAA.
However, CBSSports.com reported Wednesday that Haith still faces the failure-to-monitor charge, which has less-severe consequences than the unethical-conduct penalty, which essentially prevents schools from hiring coaches. Haith’s situation would have been unusual — he had moved to another school before the results of the investigation.
But with no unethical-conduct charge, it’s a moot point. On its website, the NCAA describes failure to monitor as “a serious violation that is similar to lack of institutional control but considered less significant. Violations that result from a failure to monitor are usually limited in scope and do not involve widespread inadequacies in compliance systems and functions that are often found in lack of institutional control cases.”
Typically, schools and individuals named in the notice of allegations have 90 days to file a response, and that can be reviewed by the NCAA Committee on Infractions. Penalties could be announced months later. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/20...#storylink=cpy

01-09-2013, 08:42 PM
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BourbonMan The Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: topeka Casino cash: $10004900	COLUMBIA — The University of Miami received the notice of allegations from the NCAA on Tuesday, and so did Missouri basketball coach Frank Haith, who was the Hurricanes’ coach at the time covered in the investigation. But the big revelation: Haith said the notice did not include an unethical-conduct charge. The possibility of the charge, which could have been career damaging and prompted a decision about Haith’s employment at Missouri, was first reported last month by CBSSports.com. It’s not known what, if any, charges were listed against Haith. “Contrary to what was reported, there was no unethical conduct in my notice of allegation,” Haith said after the Tigers’ 63-60 victory over fifth-ranked Florida. “We get a chance to defend ourselves.” Haith made the comment after he had risen to leave his happy postgame news conference. When he was peppered with questions about the notice, which started circulating during the game, Haith returned to his chair and spoke directly into the microphone. “The biggest thing I want to tell you is I’m glad this thing is almost over,” Haith said. Haith said he informed athletic director Mike Alden after the game, in the hallway outside of the interview room just before Haith met with reporters. Alden had told an ESPN reporter during the second half that Missouri hadn’t received a notice from Miami. “Shoot, after 20 months, I think all of us are pleased that we can deal with it and move forward,” Alden said. “I’m looking forward to working with Frank for a long time.” Alden had not seen the report when he spoke with reporters. “He let me know just a little bit ago,” Alden said. “I’ll be glad we’ll get a chance to work together with Frank, to be able to look through it.” The charges against Haith stemmed from an allegation by Miami booster Nevin Shapiro that a member of Haith’s staff paid $10,000 to the family of DeQuan Jones, a former player. An unethical-conduct penalty could have led to a multiple-year, show-cause penalty by the NCAA, which essentially prevents schools from hiring coaches. Haith’s situation would have been unique. He had moved to another school before the results of the investigation. But with no unethical-conduct charge, it’s a moot point. Typically, schools and individuals named in the notice of allegations have 90 days to file a response, and that can be reviewed by the NCAA Committee on Infractions. Penalties could be announced months later. Miami blasted the NCAA in a statement on Tuesday evening, claiming that many allegations “remain unsubstantiated.” The university noted that many charges were brought forth by Shapiro, “a convicted con man,” and that the NCAA was responsible for damaging leaks of unsubstantiated allegations over the course of the investigations. Miami received the NCAA’s notice one day after president Mark Emmert announced the findings of an external review of its enforcement staff. In the last few weeks, the NCAA has acknowledged that it paid Shapiro’s attorney to use subpoena power to depose witnesses who were unwilling to cooperate with the investigation. The depositions were tossed from the case against Miami, and university president Donna Shalala said the school had no intention of accepting sanctions other than ones it has self-imposed. As for Haith and Missouri, the major step toward resolution came as a relief. “It’s certainly been an interesting time,” Alden said. “There are probably many of us out there, that have been surprised by a lot of things. For us, we’re glad there’s going to be some closure.” Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/20...#storylink=cpy __________________ FALSE START OFFENSE(EAGLES), EVERYBODY BUT THE CENTER!!!!!
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02-20-2013, 09:31 AM	#1458
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Kentucky is favored tonight by 10.5 over Vanderbilt. I don't understand that at all. That game strikes me as almost a toss-up. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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02-20-2013, 10:17 AM	#1465
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	Holy shit... Just looked at Gonzaga's schedule. They have played, and are undefeated against, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Baylor, and West Virginia. Can we go ahead and crown them Big 12 champs? __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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Codered Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $8888190	It was a big win and it came at the right time with going on the road with UK up next. Watching the end it all felt eerily similar to UCLA, Arkansas, Texas A&M ... When they got that three up at the end I just automatically assumed it was going in. For once Missouri over comes their rotten luck!
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02-20-2013, 11:26 AM	#1470
BourbonMan The Dude Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: topeka Casino cash: $10004900	COLUMBIA — Missouri basketball coach Frank Haith has finally received his notice of NCAA allegations, and although its full contents remain unclear, it appears he might be hit with a less-serious charge of failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance. Haith and his lawyer have not commented fully on what’s in the notice of allegations, other than to say that contrary to a CBSSports.com report a month ago, it does not include an unethical-conduct charge that could have led to the dreaded multiple-year, show-cause penalty by the NCAA. However, CBSSports.com reported Wednesday that Haith still faces the failure-to-monitor charge, which has less-severe consequences than the unethical-conduct penalty, which essentially prevents schools from hiring coaches. Haith’s situation would have been unusual — he had moved to another school before the results of the investigation. But with no unethical-conduct charge, it’s a moot point. On its website, the NCAA describes failure to monitor as “a serious violation that is similar to lack of institutional control but considered less significant. Violations that result from a failure to monitor are usually limited in scope and do not involve widespread inadequacies in compliance systems and functions that are often found in lack of institutional control cases.” Typically, schools and individuals named in the notice of allegations have 90 days to file a response, and that can be reviewed by the NCAA Committee on Infractions. Penalties could be announced months later. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/20...#storylink=cpy __________________ FALSE START OFFENSE(EAGLES), EVERYBODY BUT THE CENTER!!!!!
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