Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 269

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**alnorth** · 05-13-2013, 09:32 AM

LOL, the Royals are bowing to Duffy's increasing internet popularity.

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Kansas City Royals ‏@Royals 3m It’s really happening. @dannyduffy805 is taking over the @Royals Twitter account during tonight’s game. Don't miss out! #DuffyTakeover

Fansy the Famous Bard · 05-13-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

PS: If I hear Rex say "Billy bomb" one more time, I'm storming the booth to have fisticuffs

This is one item that I will most definitely agree with you on. I cannot listen to Hudler at all, having to turn off sound when he's announcing... that's how gawd-awful the sumbitch is.

CaliforniaChief · 05-13-2013, 10:03 AM

Rany's tweeting about a rumor (and that's all it is) about the Royals trading Yordano Ventura to the Astros for Jose Altuve. Interesting?

WhawhaWhat · 05-13-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Rany's tweeting about a rumor (and that's all it is) about the Royals trading Yordano Ventura to the Astros for Jose Altuve. Interesting?

I would take it in a heartbeat.

WhawhaWhat · 05-13-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

For having so much energy during the ASG, our fans sit through home games and don't make a damn peep until the 9th inning. It's lame as hell...

We're not in church.

It baffles me that it's the same people, for the most part, that attend Chiefs games.

It's hard to talk when you have an advertising parade at 110 dBs in between every inning.

**gblowfish** · 05-13-2013, 10:07 AM

Hud and Phizz were kissing Yankee ass all weekend on our broadcast. Made me sick. You know they'll be doing the same thing when we're in Anaheim, because they both used to work for the Angels. We'll have to hear about how great Rod Carew, and Noland Ryan, and Torii Hunter, and Albert Pujoles, and yap yap yap yappity yap yap....oh and what a genius Mike Scioscia is.....

"Oh I've Got Friends in Low Places, where the Yanks and Orioles losses chases
first place away....

But We'll Be OK.... (we're used to it...)

Oh I'm not big on social graces
Guess we'll slide on down to the Central Basement

Oh I've got friends....in LOW PLACES!!!!"

BTW: Cleveland is now in first in the AL Central.
Guess that means next Cleveland series will be having Chris Perez Appreciation Day!

**alnorth** · 05-13-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Rany's tweeting about a rumor (and that's all it is) about the Royals trading Yordano Ventura to the Astros for Jose Altuve. Interesting?

uhhh.... Yeah. I endorse this trade.

I won't believe it unless it happens, that looks like one of those message board trade proposals as drafted by a Royals fan.

CaliforniaChief · 05-13-2013, 10:08 AM

Hey at least on the flip side, those of us on the West Coast get to hear Mark Gubicza talk positively about the Royals. Swap???

jbwm89 · 05-13-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Rany's tweeting about a rumor (and that's all it is) about the Royals trading Yordano Ventura to the Astros for Jose Altuve. Interesting?

Not even a rumor, just a possible fit they were talking about on 810 today. They speculated on whether it would be a good trade IF it ever even came to be a possibility.

WhawhaWhat · 05-13-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Hud and Phizz were kissing Yankee ass all weekend on our broadcast. Made me sick.

Ken Singleton and David Cone were kissing the Royals and Kansas City's ass all weekend too.

**gblowfish** · 05-13-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Ken Singleton and David Cone were kissing the Royals and Kansas City's ass all weekend too.

David Cone is one of Baseball's all time biggest paycheck whores. He's right there with Johnny Damon.

Demonpenz · 05-13-2013, 10:22 AM

I don't have a problem with the Rivera thing just because he's the best that there has ever was. The Royals aren't bigger than the game and acknowledgement of a historic player seems alright with me. I seem to remember plenty of standing ovations from other parks for Brett final games.

Prison Bitch · 05-13-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Rany's tweeting about a rumor (and that's all it is) about the Royals trading Yordano Ventura to the Astros for Jose Altuve. Interesting?

Wait a second: we can get a 23-yr old 2B who is 4th in the NL in batting at .336 (who already hit .290 last year full season) for....a AA prospect?

I've heard some dumb rumors, but this is one of the dumbest.

duncan_idaho · 05-13-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jbwm89

Not even a rumor, just a possible fit they were talking about on 810 today. They speculated on whether it would be a good trade IF it ever even came to be a possibility.

It would be a very good trade and is exactly the type of trade that the farm system should be leveraged to enable.

Altuve is tiny and limited somewhat by that, but he's also a proven MLB player with decent OBP skills, a good glove, and - most important - 4 years of control after this one.

Exactly the type of deal you'd be willing to move a guy like Ventura for.

How good would .290/.350/.400 look out of 2B/the leadoff spot for the next 4.5 years? It also would allow them to leave Alex Gordon in the 3 spot long-term.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 05-13-2013, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Wait a second: we can get a 23-yr old 2B who is 4th in the NL in batting at .336 (who already hit .290 last year full season) for....a AA prospect?

I've heard some dumb rumors, but this is one of the dumbest.

AL, AL!! the switch has had me confused at times this year as well...

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1710308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17666178 VARSITY	Hud and Phizz were kissing Yankee ass all weekend on our broadcast. Made me sick. You know they'll be doing the same thing when we're in Anaheim, because they both used to work for the Angels. We'll have to hear about how great Rod Carew, and Noland Ryan, and Torii Hunter, and Albert Pujoles, and yap yap yap yappity yap yap....oh and what a genius Mike Scioscia is..... "Oh I've Got Friends in Low Places, where the Yanks and Orioles losses chases first place away.... But We'll Be OK.... (we're used to it...) Oh I'm not big on social graces Guess we'll slide on down to the Central Basement Oh I've got friends....in LOW PLACES!!!!" BTW: Cleveland is now in first in the AL Central. Guess that means next Cleveland series will be having Chris Perez Appreciation Day! Last edited by gblowfish; 05-13-2013 at 10:12 AM..
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Demonpenz I got Rice cookin in the micro Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $3102136	I don't have a problem with the Rivera thing just because he's the best that there has ever was. The Royals aren't bigger than the game and acknowledgement of a historic player seems alright with me. I seem to remember plenty of standing ovations from other parks for Brett final games. __________________
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