Stone Temple Pilots fire lead singer

[Mr. Laz]

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS
FIRE Lead Singer
Scott Weiland
BREAKING NEWS
Stone Temple Pilots has unceremoniously FIRED its lead singer Scott Weiland ... who's been the face of the seminal rock band for 20 years.

The group released an ominously curt statement today, saying, "Stone Temple Pilots have announced they have officially terminated Scott Weiland." They don't give any further explanation.

It's pretty shocking for several reasons ... the main being Weiland has been a core member of the group since it came together in 1986. His voice has become synonymous with STP's sound ... on hits like "Plush," "Sour Girl," and "Sex Type Thing."

Another reason this came out of nowhere ... Weiland denied rumors he was leaving the band just yesterday, telling Rolling Stone, "STP has not broken up. I haven't quit. I haven't been fired."

Rumors of a split began a couple of months ago when Slash said STP had fired Weiland.

STP reformed in 2008 after a 5-year hiatus and toured through last year -- but apparently it hasn't been working out.

So far, it's unclear who STP has in mind to replace Weiland ... if anyone.

Weiland is set to launch a solo tour next month.


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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

in 1991 and 1992, when 'grunge' was huge and Nirvana was hitting #1 (you know, contexually the period of time we're talking about) Geffen was pushing GN'R like they (hehehe) were going out of style.

And why wouldn't they push GNR? Why couldn't Geffen do both (which they did)?

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

But hey, you were in the know in '86 when Zutaut brought them to Geffen, I'm sure you were at the first meeting.

Actually, I wasn't living in Los Angeles in 1986 (unfortunately) but I later knew Tom. And Vickie Hamilton had far more to do with Guns & Roses than Tom Zutaut.

But go ahead and keep insulting me. I'm sure that's great for your ego.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

I know just enought to know that is exactly what I DON'T wanna do

And once again, you sound like a person that knows just enough to think they know what they're talking about but in reality, doesn't.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, what I think is that you're flippant remarks about me working in nearly every facet of the music business for the past 20 years are rude and uncalled for. If anything, you should be reaching out instead of trying to insult.

20 years ago, there was no internet. There was no way for me, a kid in Kansas, to communicate directly with people in Hollywood that worked in music business. There were no mentors in KC because quite frankly, pretty much no one had a career and cover bands were king. That's not the music business.

So, I had to pack up, move to a shit apartment in Hollywood, learn the business, network, grow my skills, etc. and so on. I would have killed to have had a mentor but I had to learn everything the hard way, although I met a shit ton of people along the way that did help shape my career.

The bottom line is that snide remarks only make you appear to be an egotistical know-it-all jackass. And that's a combination that won't likely get you far in this business.

So, your remarks toward me are perfectly okay, because you're older and have put in your dues you can say whatever you want, call people names like 'dipshit' and 'dumbass'??

If you notice, I refer to you as Mr. McCloud.

I'm not trying to be snide, or flippant - I'm sorry you take it that way.

I thought it was funny. I figured you'd think that it was cool that I even care about rock music as opposed to ooopa gangnum style or what the **** ever.

Sarcasm doesn't tranfer well over the internets.

[Deberg_1990]

I remember Appetite for Destruction came out around 87 but they didnt get big until a year or two later. I had a buddy that kept wanting me to listen to it, but i kept refusing. heh, "Who is that?" LOL

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And why wouldn't they push GNR? Why couldn't Geffen do both (which they did)?

They did - I would spin the Illusions as regularly as Nevermind and Incesticide.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Actually, I wasn't living in Los Angeles in 1986 (unfortunately) but I later knew Tom. And Vickie Hamilton had far more to do with Guns & Roses than Tom Zutaut.

I know, Vicky got ****ED. She held their hand all the way to Geffen's front door.

But Zutaut is technically who signed them, so I went with him. He would've been the one in the room at that point (note : SARCASM, kind of)

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But go ahead and keep insulting me. I'm sure that's great for your ego.

Dude, you're one of the biggest vile-spewing shit-stirrers on this board.

Wiser man than me once said 'if you're gonna dish it out, you better be ready to take it.'

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I remember Appetite for Destruction came out around 87 but they didnt get big until a year or two later. I had a buddy that kept wanting me to listen to it, but i kept refusing. heh, "Who is that?" LOL

It took a while for GNR to break but I don't recall it taking two years. IIRC, it was 1988 when they began to take off and sell big units. "Sweet Child O' Mine" really broke them.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And once again, you sound like a person that knows just enough to think they know what they're talking about but in reality, doesn't.

well, even though the engineer is running line signals, I practically ****ing MADE them mic up amps in the live room.

I just want the sound of the room and the amps wherever possible.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Dude, you're one of the biggest vile-spewing shit-stirrers on this board.

Wiser man than me once said 'if you're gonna dish it out, you better be ready to take it.'

Except for the fact that you're talking out of your ass: You didn't experience any of what you've written on this subject, you've read it on the internet or in books, etc.

You're very closed minded, especially when it comes to the process of recording. A little advice: Stop with your preconcieved notions (which also happen to be incorrect) and stop acting as if you know everything.

You don't. Otherwise, you wouldn't be in Missouri right now. You'd actually have a career in the music business instead of dreaming about one.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It took a while for GNR to break but I don't recall it taking two years. IIRC, it was 1988 when they began to take off and sell big units. "Sweet Child O' Mine" really broke them.

almost a full year - Welcome to The Jungle had been on The Dead Pool soundtrack and all that.

'88 when Sweet Child hit radio they blew up. I remember seeing the 'Live At The Ritz' on MTV in early '89, and that was about the time they were becoming a true phenomenon.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

well, even though the engineer is running line signals, I practically ****ing MADE them mic up amps in the live room.

I just want the sound of the room and the amps wherever possible.

Running a line out from a bass head through a direct box has absolutely nothing to do with an EQ, Reverb or Modulation plugin, whether it's been modeled after a piece of vintage gear or not.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Except for the fact that you're talking out of your ass: You didn't experience any of what you've written on this subject, you've read it on the internet or in books, etc.

You're very closed minded, especially when it comes to the process of recording. A little advice: Stop with your preconcieved notions (which also happen to be incorrect) and stop acting as if you know everything.

You don't. Otherwise, you wouldn't be in Missouri right now. You'd actually have a career in the music business instead of dreaming about one.

What DIDN'T I experience??

The rise and fall of Nirvana and GN'R?? In my own way, I was totally involved in that.

Just because I wasn't in LA, hobknobbing with the key players doesn't mean I don't know what happened...

What is it, exactly, that I didn't experience that I shouldn't be posting about??

[Deberg_1990]

Just out of curiosity, how old are you Driving Wheel?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Running a line out from a bass head through a direct box has absolutely nothing to do with an EQ, Reverb or Modulation plugin, whether it's been modeled after a piece of vintage gear or not.

No, the signal is split - one dry signal (direct), one delayed signal (direct) and one to the amp, which is miked.

Pretty intricate for some backwoods yokels in the middle of MO...but between cowtipping and getting high on meth, we gots nothin' else ta do round dese here partz...

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Just out of curiosity, how old are you Driving Wheel?

old enough to ****ing know better, that's for sure.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're very closed minded, especially when it comes to the process of recording. A little advice: Stop with your preconcieved notions (which also happen to be incorrect) and stop acting as if you know everything.

Man, I just don't want my record to sound like everyone ****ing body else's ****ing record. I don't have a producer, I don't have anyone with any real recording studio experience, I don't know what I'm doing with digital a good 3/4 of the time...

...I just think that if you record a good performance on good equipment that it should sound good.

That's not me having preconceived notions or thinking I know it all; quite the opposite - it's that I don't know what I'm doing so much that I don't know what else to do, if that makes any sense...