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Stop Eating Sugar

Added sugar in particular. Most fruit is okay.

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Old 06-03-2013, 06:47 AM   #676
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I'm in. I'm swearing it off & I love it. I watched that tonight, too. Normally I'm not a big advocate of 60-minutes, because they'll politically sway their shows, not tonights though. Very good info.
I never took 60 minutes seriously after they did a story that claim Paul Simon was nothing until he made an album with an African vocal group. Really? Bridge over Troubled Water was a warm up song? F you liberal extremist aholes.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:18 AM   #677
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I've seen people saying that be been eating sugar since the beginning of time and this whole thing is bullshit. Well, to be fair, that is correct, we have been eating sugar since the days of Jesus. However, that was natural sugars. In the last 30 years or so(?), since the beginning of artificial sweeteners and the sugar lobbyist etc...sugar intake is way out of control. Its been put into almost everyting, and of course They didnt use. to process the shiit out of sugar back in the day either. Sugar is more addictive than heroin, just look how angry certain people are getting at thought of someone saying its bad. Also, watching someone quitting sugar is like watching a horror movie. They get mean, ugly, angry and they'd get close to going on a killing spree.

Aspartame is the biggest evil that hasn't been around since the dawn of time. It's loaded with all kinds of horrible shit, Including formaldehyde. The story of how it finally got past the FDA in the 70s is pretty interesting as well.

Natural sugar is good, artificial or too much "processed" sugar is bad. But, ill take processed over artificial any ****ing day.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:41 AM   #678
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so, with what we know, why is our gov't (who is our "primary healthcare administrator") subsidizing HFCS and smiling to suggest it is a good thing we do as a farm community, while our best, healthiest source of sugar (fruits, cane) are not at all subsidized and in fact are frowned upon by those in power over the past 50 years?

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Old 06-03-2013, 08:18 AM   #679
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so, with what we know, why is our gov't (who is our "primary healthcare administrator") subsidizing HFCS and smiling to suggest it is a good thing we do as a farm community, while our best, healthiest source of sugar (fruits, cane) are not at all subsidized and in fact are frowned upon by those in power over the past 50 years?

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Because the more people become overweight, the more medical complications become apparent. The FDA makes a ton of money off medication for obesity, high blood pressure, cholesterol, type-II diabetes. Why would they ban something that brings them so much money??

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Old 06-03-2013, 08:38 AM   #680
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Aspartame is the biggest evil that hasn't been around since the dawn of time. It's loaded with all kinds of horrible shit, Including formaldehyde. The story of how it finally got past the FDA in the 70s is pretty interesting as well.
Aspartame does not contain formaldehyde or other "horrible shit". It is composed of two amino acids (proteins) - L-aspartic acid and L-phenylalanine - that occur naturally in food. These two proteins are held together with a methyl ester backbone.

When it is metabolized in the body, the methyl ester breaks down into methanol. The methanol makes up 1/10 of the residual components of the aspartame so it's only a small part.

To metabolize methanol, a small amount of formaldehyde is produced. This sounds scary but formaldehyde is actually an important substance in the body and is used in a lot of different processes (every cell in the body can process formaldehyde) . Our own bodies produce 50 mg of formaldehyde a day. The stuff is only harmful if you were to drink it straight or are exposed to industrial levels of the stuff for years at a time.

Methanol is found in higher concentrations in natural foods like fruits and vegetables. A glass of fruit juice will produce more formaldehyde than a glass of Diet Pepsi.

Here's a nice breakdown of what our bodies do with it:

http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/201...gredients.html
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:46 AM   #681
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I gotcha. What are some good diet soda's that don't taste like shit?

FWIW I love Pepsi next and it has 60% less sugar and like half the calories. I might stick to that.
Diet A&W Root Beer is kickass. I also like the Diet Cherry Coke Zero. Hardly tastes like diet drinks.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:02 AM   #682
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Diet A&W Root Beer is kickass. I also like the Diet Cherry Coke Zero. Hardly tastes like diet drinks.
Pibb Extra is another good one. I generally stick with the "cherry" diets, though I have been drinking them long enough now that I don't mind the reg diet stuff.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:15 AM   #683
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Pibb Extra is another good one. I generally stick with the "cherry" diets, though I have been drinking them long enough now that I don't mind the reg diet stuff.
I've been drinking diet sodas (first Coke and then Pepsi) for so long that regular soda seems horribly sweet. Even the new "10" sodas that have a little sugar in them but are still super low calorie seem too sweet.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:31 AM   #684
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It's not easy for someone who has to choose between a million fad diets (many of which are complete scams), who doesn't realize that there are better ways to work out than running all the time, and who doesn't have time to read every label/cook their own meals.
Unfortunately you have to read all the labels. There are a lot of "whole wheat" breads that have enriched white flour as the main ingredient - in other words white bread with a little whole wheat flour added. You HAVE to read the label on bread to make sure you get 100% whole wheat or whole grain. The same with a lot of other foods.

I have done well with a few simple rules for healthy eating that are fairly easy to keep. Only whole grains. 100% whole grain bread, brown rice, quinoa, etc. No white potatoes. Lots of fresh fruits and vegetables (avoiding only the few that have a high glycemic index like watermelon). Lean meats (chicken, pork, quality steak, fish). If you do these things you can lose a lot of weight and do it in a healthy way without too much hassle.

But you do still need to exercise. I've lost 40 lbs and kept it off for a year with this diet and exercise.

There really is no shortcut that is healthy and will let you live a healthy lifestyle for the rest of your life. Too many lose some weight with fad diets, then go back to their old lifestyle and gain it all back (or more). A complete and permanent change of lifestyle is best. And it requires dedication and hard work, but is worth it. I'm 51 and in the best shape of my life - and I feel great.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:35 AM   #685
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Because the more people become overweight, the more medical complications become apparent. The FDA makes a ton of money of medication for obesity, high blood pressure, cholesterol, type-II diabetes. Why would they ban something that brings them so much money??
yep, and so the 'loop' is closed.

Zero $$$ for orange growers.

Endle$$ deep pockets of cash subsidies for corn -- by far, the most soil intensive food crop grown in america. As an energy source it is equally toxic to environmental efficiency.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:40 AM   #686
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Diet soda.
Still bad for you (even though I'm an addict.)

The various water flavorings with low sugar content are pretty good...
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:21 AM   #687
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Aspartame does not contain formaldehyde or other "horrible shit". It is composed of two amino acids (proteins) - L-aspartic acid and L-phenylalanine - that occur naturally in food. These two proteins are held together with a methyl ester backbone.

When it is metabolized in the body, the methyl ester breaks down into methanol. The methanol makes up 1/10 of the residual components of the aspartame so it's only a small part.

To metabolize methanol, a small amount of formaldehyde is produced. This sounds scary but formaldehyde is actually an important substance in the body and is used in a lot of different processes (every cell in the body can process formaldehyde) . Our own bodies produce 50 mg of formaldehyde a day. The stuff is only harmful if you were to drink it straight or are exposed to industrial levels of the stuff for years at a time.

Methanol is found in higher concentrations in natural foods like fruits and vegetables. A glass of fruit juice will produce more formaldehyde than a glass of Diet Pepsi.

Here's a nice breakdown of what our bodies do with it:

http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/201...gredients.html
Youre right. I went and found what I had read, a a few years back, and I mistook 'all the shit in it" with all the shit it could do to you.
All in all, still a big NO THANK YOU to artificial sweetners.
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Icarus - SEVERAL people are addicted to sugar - several. They may be in denial - i'd say 57% of active CP'ers are addicted to sugar. 11.17% would admit it.

It's along the same lines as how the cp'ers all describing how they look, online over CP, to everyone.

People have said I look like this person - Brad Pitt, or umm, what's the other??? oh yeah Johnny Depp - then the next CP function photo rolls out & so does reality and most of you ACTUALLY look like Lemmy from Motorhead's g'd out in some Levi Jean Jackets w/ a concert shirt of a thrasher metal band, underneath.
Yeah I totally look like Brad Pitt too. If he'd been beaten with a sock full of Irish Spring bars.
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Unfortunately you have to read all the labels. There are a lot of "whole wheat" breads that have enriched white flour as the main ingredient - in other words white bread with a little whole wheat flour added. You HAVE to read the label on bread to make sure you get 100% whole wheat or whole grain. The same with a lot of other foods.

I have done well with a few simple rules for healthy eating that are fairly easy to keep. Only whole grains. 100% whole grain bread, brown rice, quinoa, etc. No white potatoes. Lots of fresh fruits and vegetables (avoiding only the few that have a high glycemic index like watermelon). Lean meats (chicken, pork, quality steak, fish). If you do these things you can lose a lot of weight and do it in a healthy way without too much hassle.

But you do still need to exercise. I've lost 40 lbs and kept it off for a year with this diet and exercise.


There really is no shortcut that is healthy and will let you live a healthy lifestyle for the rest of your life. Too many lose some weight with fad diets, then go back to their old lifestyle and gain it all back (or more). A complete and permanent change of lifestyle is best. And it requires dedication and hard work, but is worth it. I'm 51 and in the best shape of my life - and I feel great.
Have you ever had a brown rice tortilla? Trader Joes has them here. I cant find them anywhere else. Makes the best quesadillas!
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Aspartame does not contain formaldehyde or other "horrible shit". It is composed of two amino acids (proteins) - L-aspartic acid and L-phenylalanine - that occur naturally in food. These two proteins are held together with a methyl ester backbone.

When it is metabolized in the body, the methyl ester breaks down into methanol. The methanol makes up 1/10 of the residual components of the aspartame so it's only a small part.

To metabolize methanol, a small amount of formaldehyde is produced. This sounds scary but formaldehyde is actually an important substance in the body and is used in a lot of different processes (every cell in the body can process formaldehyde) . Our own bodies produce 50 mg of formaldehyde a day. The stuff is only harmful if you were to drink it straight or are exposed to industrial levels of the stuff for years at a time.

Methanol is found in higher concentrations in natural foods like fruits and vegetables. A glass of fruit juice will produce more formaldehyde than a glass of Diet Pepsi.

Here's a nice breakdown of what our bodies do with it:

http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/201...gredients.html
I've been experimenting with sugar substitutes.

What can you tell me about "organic" blue agave?

Thanks.
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