Chiefs Do You Have Any Expectations This Week?

BoneKrusher · 10-12-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I am convinced that the Chiefs will never pick a QB with a top 5 pick, or even a first rounder for that matter. The evidence is pretty strong.

i think they will after Pioli is fired, not before.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i think they will after Pioli is fired, not before.

Well not picking a QB in the first round was going on a long time before Pioli was on board.
In fact, they have only done it twice in the history of the franchise that I recall.
Steve Fuller in 79 and Todd Blackledge in 83 if I remember correctly. Am I forgetting someone? Please correct me if I am missing someone.

They took a few later round pokes at it, like David Jaynes, Brodie Croyle and Stanzi, but not any other firsts.

BoneKrusher · 10-12-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Well not picking a QB in the first round was going on a long time before Pioli was on board.
In fact, they have only done it twice in the history of the franchise that I recall.
Steve Fuller in 79 and Todd Blackledge in 83 if I remember correctly. Am I forgetting someone? Please correct me if I am missing someone.

They took a few later round pokes at it, like David Jaynes, Brodie Croyle and Stanzi, but not any other firsts.

maybe it was Lamar's wishes since he got burned so bad with Todd Blackledge.

times have changed, if you dont have a great quarterback in todays NFL you're ****ed.

with a smart GM, we'll see a top tier quarterback drafted in KC.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

maybe it was Lamar's wishes since he got burned so bad with Todd Blackledge.

times have changed, if you dont have a great quarterback in todays NFL you're ****ed.

with a smart GM, we'll see a top tier quarterback drafted in KC.

I have said that a few times. I can visualize Lamar (RIP) on his death bed whispering to Clark "never, ever, draft a QB in the first as long as you run this team."

I am not sure times have changed, you have pretty much needed a top tier QB all along, thus the lack of success in KC.
Medicore QBs have resulted in mediocrity, and the only two QBs to win a playoff game since the SB win 42 years ago are Steve DeBerg and Joe Montana.
Again, I am going from memory, so feel free to point out my oversights.

**gblowfish** · 10-12-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Well not picking a QB in the first round was going on a long time before Pioli was on board.
In fact, they have only done it twice in the history of the franchise that I recall.
Steve Fuller in 79 and Todd Blackledge in 83 if I remember correctly. Am I forgetting someone? Please correct me if I am missing someone.

They took a few later round pokes at it, like David Jaynes, Brodie Croyle and Stanzi, but not any other firsts.

Pete Beathard from USC in 1964, drafted in the first round of AFL draft. He was Dawson's back up.

We've had other QBs that were other teams first round picks as well:

Cotton Davidson - Baltimore
Len Dawson - Pittsburgh
Jacky Lee - Houston

Brady Quinn is the 7th "First Round QB" to start a game for KC.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Pete Beathard from USC in 1964, drafted in the first round of AFL draft. He was Dawson's back up.

We've had other QBs that were other teams first round picks as well:

Cotton Davidson - Baltimore
Len Dawson - Pittsburgh
Jacky Lee - Houston

Brady Quinn is the 7th "First Round QB" to start a game for KC.

I forgot Beathard, thanks. I started following the team in 1969, so that makes sense.
I was referring to the Chiefs actual 1st round picks, as Lenny is the star of the other teams picks, for sure, no doubt.
So in 52 years there has been three, right? Beathard, Fuller and Blackledge? Zero in the last 30.

**gblowfish** · 10-12-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I forgot Beathard, thanks. I started following the team in 1969, so that makes sense.
I was referring to the Chiefs actual 1st round picks, as Lenny is the star of the other teams picks, for sure, no doubt.
So in 52 years there has been three, right? Beathard, Fuller and Blackledge? Zero in the last 30.

Yep.

Todd Sackledge was the last big dive into the QB pool. We had a shot at everybody but Elway in 1983. We passed on Kelly, Eason, O'Brien, and ...this one really hurts... Marino.

Imagine if we had Marino all those years going head to head with Elway. Bet we would have made the Donks taste some of the pain they laid on us.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Yep.

Todd Sackledge was the last big dive into the QB pool. We had a shot at everybody but Elway in 1983. We passed on Kelly, Eason, O'Brien, and ...this one really hurts... Marino.

Imagine if we had Marino all those years going head to head with Elway. Bet we would have made the Donks taste some of the pain they laid on us.

Yeah, the Marino and Kelly ones both really hurt. Didn't Shula float "pot" rumors about Marino so he would drop?

**gblowfish** · 10-12-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Yeah, the Marino and Kelly ones both really hurt. Didn't Shula float "pot" rumors about Marino so he would drop?

The story I remember on personal workouts was this.

Blackledge was a big God Squadder type, big FCA Jesus kinda guy, like Mackovic and Bill Kenney. Remember, Blackledge was the tits that year coming out of college. Everyone thought Elway and Blackledge were the cream of the crop.

They brought Marino in for a workout at Arrowhead with a couple of the Chiefs receivers. Marino had a cannon. When the receivers dropped a pass, Marino would glare and curse at them. The God Squad didn't like that. So they picked Todd because he was "nicer."

And thus is history.