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Old 02-18-2013, 07:20 PM   #1
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For no reason.

The dirty little secret is that it isn't necessary to have an elite QB to win like so many or saying. You just need to have a good quarterback to win.

Flacco ain't elite. Eli ain't elite. Big Ben ain't elite. Those guys are good in their own ways but each of them have massive holes in their games. Look at the list of SB winners and sure you have good QBs winning all of them.

But in recent history there have been maybe 3 instances of the best QB in football winning the SB - Brady (one of his wins), Manning and Rodgers. Brees is also pretty much a flawless passer, though I wouldn't have considered him the 'best'.

And frankly, I think it's going to get easier and easier to find credible QB play as we go forward which is why it really wouldn't surprise me to see the pendulum swing back towards defenses a little bit. Remember - if everyone's special, than nobody's special.

It's absolutely more critical than it's ever been to have good quarterback play but the funny thing is that it might now be less critical than ever to have elite quarterback play because of how the rule changes have bunched up the ranks. Suddenly the gap between the historic and the good (say, Montana and Ken O'Brien) is more easily bridged because the rules now allow the Ken O'Brien's of the world (Eli Manning) to hide their flaws.

It's really a fascinating time to evaluate the position and I could be way the hell off; it's just a thought.
I agree completely with this.

We're probably at a point right now where you can win a SB with a top 10 QB. Anyone in the top 10 can beat anyone else in the top 10.

We're probably inching towards the point where if you half a top half of the league QB, you've got a chance, if the rest of the team isn't dogshit.

Which only makes the QB position more valuable, IMO.

It's gonna get easier to find a guy in the draft, so you might as well keep picking them high.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:24 PM   #2
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I agree completely with this.

We're probably at a point right now where you can win a SB with a top 10 QB. Anyone in the top 10 can beat anyone else in the top 10.

We're probably inching towards the point where if you half a top half of the league QB, you've got a chance, if the rest of the team isn't dogshit.

Which only makes the QB position more valuable, IMO.

It's gonna get easier to find a guy in the draft, so you might as well keep picking them high.
Probably more than 10

Brady
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:53 PM   #3
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:10 PM   #4
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:14 PM   #5
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Landry Jones is Sam Bradford.
Not even remotely close.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:24 PM   #6
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Landry Jones is Sam Bradford.
nah ... opposites imo

Jones is physically gifted but is a puss


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Old 02-18-2013, 07:21 PM   #7
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:24 PM   #8
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:43 PM   #9
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:09 PM   #10
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Stats don't mean shit...

Russell is the next big thing (no pun).

He'll be the NFL standard for a decade.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:51 PM   #12
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Stats don't mean shit...

Russell is the next big thing (no pun).

He'll be the NFL standard for a decade.
Lol. Well he IS a passer. His team scored 58 points in a game where he threw for less than a hundred and fifty yards.

He averaged less than two hundred yards a game passing.

If that's going to be the standard something is wrong
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:22 PM   #13
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I doubt it.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:44 PM   #14
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I can see the Sam Bradford player comparison. That said: player comparisons are reeruned.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:02 PM   #15
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These comparisons make me want Geno Less and Glennon more...
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