Damn I miss Dick Vermiel!

[chiefs1111]

There are only two Vermiel! draft picks currently on this team and one of them is a punter. Screw him

Originally Posted by chiefs1111

There are only two Vermiel! draft picks currently on this team and one of them is a punter. Screw him

Check every NFL roster going back 8 years and see how many are left.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Check every NFL roster going back 8 years and see how many are left.

Ben Rothlisberger, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers.

Amirite?

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This makes no sense.

Nonsense.

[BossChief]

Only 7 first round picks from the 2005 draft are still with their original team.

[BossChief]

How can one argue that those guys weren't steals?

They were.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How can one argue that those guys weren't steals?

They were.

Steals? They were castoffs.

And for good reason.

And even then, Vermeil didn't know what the **** to do with them until weeks into the season.

Tony Richardson starting over Holmes?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Steals? They were castoffs.

And for good reason.

And even then, Vermeil didn't know what the **** to do with them until weeks into the season.

Tony Richardson starting over Holmes?

I'm with you. Holmes has good numbers here. He was a patient back with good vision. He made a ton of cash because he was running behind arguably one of the best offensive lines assembled in the history of the NFL. I'd hate to see the guy behind this line. Nike wouldn't even manufacture a #31 jersey.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Phobia

I'm with you. Holmes has good numbers here. He was a patient back with good vision. He made a ton of cash because he was running behind arguably one of the best offensive lines assembled in the history of the NFL. I'd hate to see the guy behind this line. Nike wouldn't even manufacture a #31 jersey.

We all used to talk about this back in the day. It's kind of funny to revisit it, 11 years later, and have people refer to it as some kind of "glory days" silliness.

And for those that don't know, Phobes is the man that coined the nickname:

TrInt.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We all used to talk about this back in the day. It's kind of funny to revisit it, 11 years later, and have people refer to it as some kind of "glory days" silliness.

And for those that don't know, Phobes is the man that coined the nickname:

TrInt.

I came to appreciate Green playing within his abilities. But that first year was horrific. Green was another Holmes-like beneficiary of that offensive line, that system. Made him a rich man too. Shows that having a team and coaches who can play to your strengths and hide your weaknesses works. That staff gets credit for that, for sure. I wish we had some of that today but as good as that offense was, the defense was twice as bad. Probably even worse than today's defense.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How can one argue that those guys weren't steals?

They were.

Trading the #12 overall pick for Trent Green was not a "steal", especially given that Drew Brees was on the board.

The Chiefs under Vermeil were a "Get Rich Quick" scheme.

And it failed miserably.

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Steals?



Priest Holmes was dumped by a Super Bowl team after two ACL surgeries. Kennison was dumped MID SEASON. Weigmann was a backup center.

Also, Vermeil expected Richardson to be the starter with Priest as a 3rd down back.

JFC, are you people THIS out of the loop?

Furthermore, you ****ing DUMBASS, they missed on how many defensive free agents? A dozen? How about guys like Snoop Minnis? Bigfoot? etc. and so on.

Shut the **** up.

Wait...wut? Are, or are you not, saying they were steals. Cuz it sounds like they are, but you're arguing they're not...but really are.

I'm cun****ed.

[tk13]

I will say this, Pioli wishes he could do what they did with that offense. I'm not sure anyone in the last two decades has done anything close. They traded for a backup QB, got a RB off the scrapheap, traded a midround pick for a washed up LT, converted a FB to LG, signed another team's backup center, grabbed a castoff WR from a division rival, converted a midget college RB, and created one of the best offenses of all time.

[bobbything]

This is awesome. People actually railing on the best offense this franchise has ever seen and then quantifying the criticism with how bad those players were with OTHER teams.

I've seen it all.

We were awful on offense in the 90's with Marty, for the record..

[tk13]

Originally Posted by bobbything

This is awesome. People actually railing on the best offense this franchise has ever seen and then quantifying the criticism with how bad those players were with OTHER teams.

I've seen it all.

We were awful on offense in the 90's with Marty, for the record..

Welcome to ChiefsPlanet, where everything that's good sucks, every Super Bowl winning coach is lucky, every 1st round QB is Aaron Rodgers, and cornerback is the most important position on the defense. If you've been here longer than 5 minutes you've seen it in action.