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Old 01-16-2013, 08:22 PM   #1
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No I just don't think Geno is the greatest QB prospect of all-time. Chiefsplanet is the only place on the internet where Geno is just as good as RG3 and better than 95% of QB prospects in the last 10 years.
List the better prospects in the last 10 years.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:39 PM   #2
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List the better prospects in the last 10 years.
Here's one right off the bat that you didn't list in your post milkman: Matt Stafford.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:46 PM   #3
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Here's one right off the bat that you didn't list in your post milkman: Matt Stafford.
I don't remember the exact questions about Stafford coming out, and I was really high on him.

However, the consensus was that, had Bradford come out, he would have been selected first, not Stafford.

Do you believe that Bradford was a better prospect than Smith?
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:02 PM   #4
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I don't remember the exact questions about Stafford coming out, and I was really high on him.
If I remember right it was footwork/mechanics, pocket awareness and mobility, decision making, touch on short throws. He was no sure thing, but with an arm like his he was going very high regardless.

I think I remember some people here arguing against him pretty strongly at the time. How he wasn't "worth the #1 pick". That line that seems to be recycled annually here.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:19 PM   #5
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If I remember right it was footwork/mechanics, pocket awareness and mobility, decision making, touch on short throws. He was no sure thing, but with an arm like his he was going very high regardless.

I think I remember some people here arguing against him pretty strongly at the time. How he wasn't "worth the #1 pick". That line that seems to be recycled annually here.
You would think that Geno's accuracy, combined with his arm strength, which is very good, would have him rated nearly as high.

I personally like him better than Stafford, but I can understand how he would be rated a little behind him.

What I don't get is how either could be considered lesser prospects than Bradford.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:19 PM   #6
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If I remember right it was footwork/mechanics, pocket awareness and mobility, decision making, touch on short throws. He was no sure thing, but with an arm like his he was going very high regardless.

I think I remember some people here arguing against him pretty strongly at the time. How he wasn't "worth the #1 pick". That line that seems to be recycled annually here.
He may or may not have been worth the #1 pick but he still struggles with those same exact issues. I remember watching him during the 2008 season throwing dumb interception after dumb interception thinking "This is the #1 guy?".

Four years later, his teams went 2-14, 6-10, 10-6 and 4-12. Stafford still has the same issues.

Without Megatron, the dude would be much worse.
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He may or may not have been worth the #1 pick but he still struggles with those same exact issues. I remember watching him during the 2008 season throwing dumb interception after dumb interception thinking "This is the #1 guy?".

Four years later, his teams went 2-14, 6-10, 10-6 and 4-12. Stafford still has the same issues.

Without Megatron, the dude would be much worse.
He's a case where you'd expect a team to fall in love with his arm, build, talent, etc, despite whatever flaws he has, and take a chance that they can mold him however they want. You can't coach his physical attributes. For a team that wanted to attack vertically, wanted a gunslinger, he would've been the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I thought he needed another year, personally. But I also would have been thrilled had the Chiefs taken him or traded up for him.

(he only threw 10 picks in '08, you must've seen the bad games - that Georgia offense was a bit weird back then as I recall - I think he was basically chucking it downfield whenever he threw. It was pro style, but not much in the way of short or intermediate stuff. assuming i'm remembering it right. which I may not be).
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:22 PM   #8
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He's a case where you'd expect a team to fall in love with his arm, build, talent, etc, despite whatever flaws he has, and take a chance that they can mold him however they want. You can't coach his physical attributes. For a team that wanted to attack vertically, wanted a gunslinger, he would've been the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I thought he needed another year, personally. But I also would have been thrilled had the Chiefs taken him or traded up for him.

(he only threw 10 picks in '08, you must've seen the bad games - that Georgia offense was a bit weird back then as I recall - I think he was basically chucking it downfield whenever he threw. It was pro style, but not much in the way of short or intermediate stuff. assuming i'm remembering it right. which I may not be).
It seems alot of these strong armed guys, struggle with the short intermediate stuff. They can't tone it down.
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(he only threw 10 picks in '08, you must've seen the bad games - that Georgia offense was a bit weird back then as I recall - I think he was basically chucking it downfield whenever he threw. It was pro style, but not much in the way of short or intermediate stuff. assuming i'm remembering it right. which I may not be).
This appears to be my forte: Turn on the TV to watch celebrated college QB's, only to see them fall flat on their face.

Maybe I shouldn't watch The Combines.

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I don't remember the exact questions about Stafford coming out, and I was really high on him.

However, the consensus was that, had Bradford come out, he would have been selected first, not Stafford.

Do you believe that Bradford was a better prospect than Smith?
I think Bradford is a slightly better prospect than Geno, but Geno has a higher ceiling IMO because he can make the big play happen more than Sammy.
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