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Old 05-17-2018, 03:17 PM   #1
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On paper at least, the Chargers are better than the Chiefs on defense without question. The Chiefs offense is better, but that's assuming Mahomes doesn't suck which, let's face it, isn't a given.
The Chargers 's defense on paper is barely better than the Chiefs ' going into next season if even it is better. As I have said before, I like the Chiefs front seven better but the Chargers have a better secondary.

The Chargers defense seems to be slightly overrated and the Chiefs defense slightly underrated. I see both as top 15 units with a chance at the top 10.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:27 PM   #2
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The Chargers 's defense on paper is barely better than the Chiefs ' going into next season if even it is better. As I have said before, I like the Chiefs front seven better but the Chargers have a better secondary.

The Chargers defense seems to be slightly overrated and the Chiefs defense slightly underrated. I see both as top 15 units with a chance at the top 10.
Well, one of these teams had a top 15 unit last season....the other didn't.

They're better at corner, and safety is a toss up. Sure, normally Eric Berry would be considered the better player over a rookie, but we don't know what Eric Berry has left or how good Derwin James is either. I'd call it a wash until proven otherwise.

For pass rushers they have Bosa and Ingram, which are a better combo than Houston/Ford.

At NT, we have a relative unknown. They have Brandon Mebane who produced well for them last season.

Fact is, one of these defenses is loaded with young talent, the other has aging stars and 50/50 upside players.

That Chargers D is in its prime for now and the immediate future. They're gonna be talented D for the next 2-3 years at least. Kinda like the Chiefs before DJ, Hali and Houston started breaking down.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:35 PM   #3
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Well, one of these teams had a top 15 unit last season....the other didn't.

They're better at corner, and safety is a toss up. Sure, normally Eric Berry would be considered the better player over a rookie, but we don't know what Eric Berry has left or how good Derwin James is either. I'd call it a wash until proven otherwise.

For pass rushers they have Bosa and Ingram, which are a better combo than Houston/Ford.

At NT, we have a relative unknown. They have Brandon Mebane who produced well for them last season.

Fact is, one of these defenses is loaded with young talent, the other has aging stars and 50/50 upside players.

That Chargers D is in its prime for now and the immediate future. They're gonna be talented D for the next 2-3 years at least. Kinda like the Chiefs before DJ, Hali and Houston started breaking down.
LOL. Are you really talking about the same Brandon Mebane who was rated 43.1 by PFF last year (#119 DL), the NT who spearheaded the 31st rushing defense last year and 33 years old guy?

Yeah, I disagree with your take. To say that Berry and James, a guy who has not played a down in this league, is a wash until proven otherwise seems ridiculous to me but oh well.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:11 PM   #4
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LOL. Are you really talking about the same Brandon Mebane who was rated 43.1 by PFF last year (#119 DL), the NT who spearheaded the 31st rushing defense last year and 33 years old guy?

Yeah, I disagree with your take. To say that Berry and James, a guy who has not played a down in this league, is a wash until proven otherwise seems ridiculous to me but oh well.
Berry is my favorite Chief of all time. But at 30 years old, with a torn ACL, torn Achilles and ****ing cancer, yeah there's going to be concerns about him being the same player until proven otherwise.
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:57 PM   #5
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What about the head coach? Is he a Marty-like or a Norv-clone?
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Old 05-17-2018, 06:35 PM   #6
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What about the head coach? Is he a Marty-like or a Norv-clone?
Seems to be a Norm clone. At least Marty had them in the playoffs. Norf and Lynn seem to share the trait of underachieving teams.
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:17 PM   #7
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Seems to be a Norm clone. At least Marty had them in the playoffs. Norf and Lynn seem to share the trait of underachieving teams.
The Chargers were unachivers last year? Lolwut?
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Old 05-17-2018, 11:42 PM   #8
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Seems to be a Norm clone. At least Marty had them in the playoffs. Norf and Lynn seem to share the trait of underachieving teams.
I like Lynn. He's nothing like the weeping vagina McCoy was. Comparing him to Norf after 1 season seems unfair. Sure they lost 3 of their first 4 by under 3 points but they finished strong. Their coaching staff seems strong to me.
- Wisenhunt and Rivers handle the O with Lynn chiming in on the running game
- Bradley on D with a lot of talent.
Norf was OC and HC. Lynn is the type of guy who'll let his Coordinators coach and spend his time rallying the troops. He's exactly the type of coach the Chargers have needed for years.
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