The Evolution of the Planet

[BIG_DADDY]

I think to understand the nature of the problem that exists here today it is important to reflect on how we arrived here. For those that don’t know, ChiefsPlanet was created to get around the vast restrictions placed on posters in KC Star. It was a huge success right off the bat and we were rolling. IMO those first months we ended up with a lot of really great posters and only a couple bad ones. As time went on CP has attracted more and more people who love not having restrictions and unlimited subjects to discuss which was great other than the fact that that many thought those threads were polluting the forum with people arguing all the time over subjects that didn’t even involve football. I posted a poll asking the membership if they wanted another forum for off topics and it passed by a landslide and the people who run this BB were gracious enough to create it and DC was born.

That has worked for a long time now with this almost no holds barred format. Once again this type of forum has been attractive to people who love the open debate that can take place here but unfortunately over many years it has attracted more and more trolls who like using the structure here to do nothing more than try to get under posters skin and will do anything in order to do that. It’s also allowed posters like frazod to thrive here being the poster child of bad psychology. Talk about no boundaries with a strong desire to bust in others and dump. This has attracted more in the like, can anyone say KCN? The trolls have grown as well in this forum in a kind of perfect storm way. What we have today is a forum saturated with trolls and posters with the psychology of a 13 year old psychopathic girl on her first period. IMO this is costing us many potential good posters who would make this a better place to come to and has also seen us lose many quality long term posters. To complicate matters the moderators that reside here are fine with posters posting anything they want about you and your family members short of a racist remark heaven forbid just as long as you don’t do it to them which is now creating two different cultures that exist within the planet. If they think that it is hostile now they haven’t seen anything yet should this persist.

IMO at this point nothing short of a cleansing designed to rid the planet of trolls and bloody vaginas that have no control is exactly what this place needs to regain its former greatness. There was a time when I posted a thread about a family member and their battle with cancer and asked for prayers and support. Today there is no chance of me doing something like that here as I have no desire to see somebody post the nastiest thing they can think of at that point. For the old timers it should be easy to see the huge difference in where we were and where we are now. My 2 cents.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

To me there is nothing wrong with "I think" because someone is expressing an opinion at that point. Honestly stats are great, but no different than looking at a companies balance sheet, they can hide some flaws in thinking.

I don't want to get into a full Sanchez rehash, but the stats were against the pro-Sanchez group. Between the bust rate of 1st round QBs, the struggles of USC QBs and the problems with QBs with so few starts, the numbers were stacked against Sanchez, and those arguments were made time after time.

So, when OTW tries blaming his hostilities of the time on people who were hiding behind NFL job or Pioli comments, OTW is just being full of shit.

[mr. tegu]

CP was much better when we all hung out in person instead of on CP!!!

[ActiveShooter]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

AOL ruined the internet.

Blame Al Gore, he invented the Damn thing.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

To me there is nothing wrong with "I think" because someone is expressing an opinion at that point. Honestly stats are great, but no different than looking at a companies balance sheet, they can hide some flaws in thinking.

That's fine, until you rely on nothing more than "I think."

"I think" with some support is great. "I think" on it's own? Weak.


Who has the more powerful argument:

Lawyer A: Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I think my client is innocent.

Lawyer B: Ladies and Gentelmen of the jury, I think my client is innocent, and here's the evidence to back up that claim.


You were here then - you know damn good and well that there were a metric ****ton of "Lawyer A's" running around in 2009/2010.

And then they all had the nerve to act as if they were right all along when the shit started hitting the fan a few years later. Priceless.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I don't want to get into a full Sanchez rehash, but the stats were against the pro-Sanchez group. Between the bust rate of 1st round QBs, the struggles of USC QBs and the problems with QBs with so few starts, the numbers were stacked against Sanchez, and those arguments were made time after time.

OTW is just being full of shit.

He is down playing how nasty he was for sure.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by scho63

I'm going to make a great analogy that Big Daddy needs to read and digest:

Roughly 35 years ago I took up golf. I sucked balls when I first played but I practiced and finally started "fitting in" at the closest public golf course with the locals who had been there for years and my closest friends who already played with them and are excellent golfers. I was a Noob

Over the years they accepted me into their group and we all grew close, hung out after the round to drink, went out to dinner together, and also took golf vacations together. There were 24-26 of us each Sat and Sun morning, first 5-6 groups off the tee.

Then time passed.....

Guys gave up golf or played less, some moved, some got married and couldn't play as much, some died, and after a while the dynamics changed and so did the group.

I had a choice-stop playing golf or accept the changes. I choose to keep playing golf and have fun with whoever I played with and avoid playing with someone who was either a pain in the ass or a hot head on the course.

While I would have loved to keep the same 'ol gang, it wasn't meant to be.

The lesson of the story is simple, times change and you can either accept them or move on....

Your choice Big Daddy!

I get that dude. The reason I have posted so much less is simply because I have very little time. It is far less enjoyable being troll central however. When I get more time again someday maybe I will just buy it and do whatever the **** I want. j/k

Actually that would make a good thread. If CP was yours tomorrow, what would you do?

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by Race Card native

I could see how you would think that. I'm an abrasive person IRL too. People either love me or they hate me. I'm also fairly aggressive so if someone comes at me then they're going to get both barrels.

It would be beneficial to CP if you could display more of your loveable qualities.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=279640

I see that thread a lot, but I have them all on ignore.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Katipan

It would be beneficial to CP if you could display less of your ass.

fify

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I don't want to get into a full Sanchez rehash, but the stats were against the pro-Sanchez group. Between the bust rate of 1st round QBs, the struggles of USC QBs and the problems with QBs with so few starts, the numbers were stacked against Sanchez, and those arguments were made time after time.

The same could have been said for Cassel. Both sides were wrong.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

There are Lies, there are Damn Lies, and then there are Statistics.
Never did want to believe in the one statistic that proved to be true about USC QBs.

It didn't prove to be true, and it was ignored then because it's a ****ing ridiculous assertion.

Each pro career for USC QB's are completely independent of each other.

There's a huge difference between a trend and undeniable fact, and the folks that relied on this argument fail to realize that.

If they were correct, high school QB's with dreams of playing pro ball would avoid USC like the plague.

But they don't, because it appears high schoolers are smarter than the people clinging to this pathetic argument.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by blaise

I'll have to go back and look. It was a few weeks ago.

And here I sat, thinking you forgot about me...

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Katipan

It would be beneficial to CP if you could display more of your loveable qualities.

Well, it would definitely be beneficial to CP if you could display more of your loveable assets.

Just sayin'.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Coach

Well, it would definitely be beneficial to CP if you could display more of your loveable assets.

Just sayin'.

Because there's a shortage of naked women on the internets...

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's fine, until you rely on nothing more than "I think."

"I think" with some support is great. "I think" on it's own? Weak.


Who has the more powerful argument:

Lawyer A: Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, I think my client is innocent.

Lawyer B: Ladies and Gentelmen of the jury, I think my client is innocent, and here's the evidence to back up that claim.


You were here then - you know damn good and well that there were a metric ****ton of "Lawyer A's" running around in 2009/2010.

And then they all had the nerve to act as if they were right all along when the shit started hitting the fan a few years later. Priceless.

That wasn't ever the problem. Nobody ever said you didn't or couldn't make a case. The problem was that people still didn't believe in Sanchez even though you attempted to sway them. After they proved that they didn't believe, you turned to all the name calling and we are not talking about dumbshit or dumbass. You and others said way worse. You guys went personal.
Then when Sanchez has been proven a bust, the naysayers were proven correct and you get left looking....even worse.