The OFFICIAL Brian Brohm to KC thread

[KC kid]

I have been a member of this site a long time so take it easy on me when I bring up something that has been discussed at length.

I have been a Chiefs fan since 1990. Never once in this time have the Chiefs drafted a first round quarterback that had the potential to be a franchise type player. We deserve this in Kansas City. We deserve this superstar. We endured all the quarterbacks well past their prime or retreads from another team. Deberg, Krieg, Montana, Grbac, Bono, Gannon, Green, and Huard. That is a new quarterback every two years or so. Green is the closest thing to a mainstay at the position in Kansas City. Green is a guy that has played on four teams now. Kansas City deserves to have a QB that is all their own.

All you football snobs can flick up your nose at me and ramble on about the offensive line until you blue in the face. Kansas City has had this element most of the time since 1990. What has it got us? One playoff win in 17 freaking years. We can find some Linemen to get the job done. I understand how hard it is to find dominate left tackles, but it is even harder to find your man behind center. Hell, the best offensive linemen on the Chiefs right now was not even drafted. The weakest link on the line was a first round pick.

It is time to take our lumps and groom our franchise QB. Carl has to understand that the fans are smart enough to know what is going on. I am so sick of our dedication to status quo mediocrity. I will personally become a Denver fan (God forbid) if we sign another retread QB for next year. Here is my list of offensive offensive pick ups:

Leftwich, Pennington!!!!, Grossman, Romo, Martin, Lemon. I am sure this list can be much longer.

That is why without further hesitation I want to encourage everyone to get the momentum going to make the Brian Brohm draft happen. We need to suck it up and rebuild the right way for the first time. Yes, this team is that bad.


Brian Brohm - Kansas City Chief

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by tk13

I made this argument yesterday, and nobody addressed it. I can see this is one of these arguments that I'm going to make 50 times, nobody will address, just move onto another thread and complain about the same thing, ignoring anything I said.

I wrote it all out in much greater detail... but generally speaking, you look at a lot of recent Super Bowl teams... and they had either 1st round or high 2nd round studs at LT. Zimmerman, Walter Jones, Pace, Odgen, Tarik Glenn. Even John Tait was a 1st round LT pick, although it took him a long time to get there. Meanwhile everybody brings up Matt Light, which came from the same team that drafted their franchise QB in round 6.

Meanwhile, drafts are littered with top 10 QB draft failures like Carr, Leaf, Couch, Harrington, even Leftwich and Manning to some extent. Nobody's yet to give me an example of a top 10 QB raising up the level of poor O-line play. While you can find tons of examples of a good line making a QB play above his abilities. And tons of examples of a QB getting killed because he has no protection.

Personally, if we do draft in the top 10, we should take the best player on our board, that could be Brohm over a LT, the college season has yet to play out. But I wouldn't take a QB over an LT just on principle. Every damn year we hear this guy and that guy as the next "franchise QB". People annoint whoever the best 2/3 guys are franchise guys that are must have... happens every single year. We'll get to 2009, and there'll be 2-3 more guys that will raise their game and be declared the next big thing.

It's a solid point, I think it's much harder to get the QB than the LT to be honest with you. That's why I lean that way, also right now I think the QB play is a bigger issue than the Oline play. They both need upgrades but who is in college that is going to be a better prospect than Brohm is? You have to think about that who are the QB's in the 2 years after him?

[tk13]

Well, I haven't given up on Croyle yet. I don't know how you can. I like some of the things I've seen... I don't think he'd be any worse than Grossman. But we obviously don't have the other players and defense around to back that kinda QB play up. But I wouldn't mind drafting an LT and giving Croyle another year.

I've always said that if you're serious about Croyle, it's not just a "this year" thing. He was a 3rd round pick, he's gonna have some growing pains... and it would be a good idea to give him a couple years, and try to build a solid line around him and see what happens. Worst case scenario, he fails and we just have to plug in a new QB behind our solid line. But even if we started Croyle last week, unless he was beyond horrible I don't think you could've given up on him after this season. If he performs decently at all he deserves a 2nd year.

[Mecca]

I just don't see it with Croyle honestly, like I said from all his college games and preseason I think he's Rob Johnson. The guy with the rocket arm but has no pocket presence and is made of glass.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's a solid point, I think it's much harder to get the QB than the LT to be honest with you. That's why I lean that way, also right now I think the QB play is a bigger issue than the Oline play. They both need upgrades but who is in college that is going to be a better prospect than Brohm is? You have to think about that who are the QB's in the 2 years after him?

Well, I'll agree with this. If you truly think Brohm is the next Manning or Palmer, you definitely take him over any lineman. I'd agree with that for sure.

[Mecca]

Brohm is probably going to be the best QB prospect of the next 3 years, people may rail on him and say he isn't that good but I'm not seeing anyone else coming along that is better...

You have to think about that when saying we shouldn't take him when QB is a position we need.

[CoMoChief]

ATL will only win 3 games this season. If they have the top pick, Petrino will not pass up on his QB from Louisville with the whole Vick situation.

[huskerdooz]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Damn that is basically it. I think this was the first year as the year started I honestly felt like there was no hope at all. I didn't even get mad when they lost because I expected it, any other year I'd have gone apeshit about losing to Houston.

Herm has taken all my hope and flushed it down the toilet, it's just everything you said and more.

I'll tell you how bad it is for me. I have more hope for the Royals then I do the Chiefs.

[CHENZ A!]

fuck BROHM IN HIS STUPID ASS

MEDLOCK AN HIM ARE HAVIN STUPID ASS LEFT FOOT THROWIN BABIES OUT THEIR ASSES ALL DAY LONG