Chiefs hire Daboll

[Urc Burry]

Per Adam Schefter twitter

[YayMike]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Zorn's legend is a pure myth.

No QB on this roster improved under him last year.

Even though you are probably right, to be fair, no QB on the roster last year was worth shit. The only one that had a chance to get better was Stanzi, and we have no idea if he made any progress bc he never saw the field.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Saunders has been able to put together good offenses. Daboll, not so much.

Plus, why come out and blatantly lie to the fan base the last few days during interviews where you keep saying you are waiting to interview certain candidates?

Saunders didn't 'put together' jack shit.

Dick put the offense together.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by YayMike

Right, and he is young enough that maybe they would groom him to eventually take over for Romeo. However, to do so would mean he may want a young QB going forward. Will Pioli allow that?

Although there is <0% chance it happens, the best way for a young OC to make an impression is cut Cassel, sign Orton, draft a QBOTF.

Reality: Cassel starts, and another season where we probably limp into the playoffs and get embarrassed again

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[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Zorn's legend is a pure myth.

No QB on this roster improved under him last year.

I'm not saying that Zorn is great or even good, but that's such a strawman.

Nobody even saw Stanzi's progress, Cassel is a sub-par 30 year old who spent the latter half of the season on IR, and Palko is one of the least talented QB's you'll ever see, and Orton was here for like 5 games.

I mean... c'mon.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Zorn's legend is a pure myth.

No QB on this roster improved under him last year.

He has to have a guy with some talent and the mental faculties to wotk with.

If there's any truth to the rumor that Cassel struggled adjusting to slight differences in scheme from the Patriots to Weiss and Muir, then he obviously lacks the mental faculties, and we already know he's limited physically.

As I've noted before, Charlie Batch and Joe Flacco had their best seasons with Zorn as QB coach, and Matt Hasselbeck was considered a top 10 QB with Zorn.

You can't polish a turd.

[YayMike]

Originally Posted by milkman

We won't be drafting a first round QB this year, unless Pioli can pull off a tradedown to take Tannehill where he feels he matches the value of the pick.

I think a lot of it will come down to how the staff evaluates Stanzi. I personally don't think he is a long term answer, and I don't think we are in the position to trade UP to get a QB. That being said, I agree if Tannehill falls, we will draft him. I am 50/50 on Tanehill but at least it would show that this regime knows we need a QBOTF.

If we don't draft a QB, which is the most likely scenario, we should at least see what we have with Stanzi only because we know that Cassel nor Orton is the answer. If somehow Orton is the starter, it shows that they want to win to put asses in the seats because even though he isnt the long term solution, Orton will win us more games than Cassel. My fear with that is that we will win too many to get a QB in 2013.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by milkman

He has to have a guy with some talent and the mental faculties to wotk with.

If there's any truth to the rumor that Cassel struggled adjusting to slight differences in scheme from the Patriots to Weiss and Muir, then he obviously lacks the mental faculties, and we already know he's limited physically.

As I've noted before, Charlie Batch and Joe Flacco had their best seasons with Zorn as QB coach, and Matt Hasselbeck was considered a top 10 QB with Zorn.

You can't polish a turd.

You can try to polish a turd.

You usually end up covered in shit though.

[YayMike]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

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Exactly. Shame we will both be highly disapointed. Cassel has no value and will start, Orton will go somewhere he can start, and we will draft an OL in the first round. None of these things SHOULD happen, but it shuts up the ''true'' fanbase.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by YayMike

I think a lot of it will come down to how the staff evaluates Stanzi. I personally don't think he is a long term answer, and I don't think we are in the position to trade UP to get a QB. That being said, I agree if Tannehill falls, we will draft him. I am 50/50 on Tanehill but at least it would show that this regime knows we need a QBOTF.

If we don't draft a QB, which is the most likely scenario, we should at least see what we have with Stanzi only because we know that Cassel nor Orton is the answer. If somehow Orton is the starter, it shows that they want to win to put asses in the seats because even though he isnt the long term solution, Orton will win us more games than Cassel. My fear with that is that we will win too many to get a QB in 2013.

By all accounts, there's the possibility of 4 or 5 first round QBs in the 2013 draft, and with a number of teams addressing their QB position in the draft last year, and in this upcoming draft, It would appear that the Chiefs could be in a very good position to pick one next year, wven if they aren't at the top of the draft.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

You can try to polish a turd.

You usually end up covered in shit though.

That really kind of summarizes the 2010 season.

[R8RFAN]

Does that guy have a boner?

[YayMike]

Originally Posted by milkman

By all accounts, there's the possibility of 4 or 5 first round QBs in the 2013 draft, and with a number of teams addressing their QB position in the draft last year, and in this upcoming draft, It would appear that the Chiefs could be in a very good position to pick one next year, wven if they aren't at the top of the draft.

Good to know. The sad thing though is that we will sacrifice the 2012 season just to get to a QB. That means that core talent ages another year.

Is it just wishful thinking that we could win a playoff game with Cassel this year if we draft Richardson, get a new solid RT, Solali and a new G/C? I think the rest of this team is good enough that its possible, but I don't want the blinders to ignore the glaring need longterm at QB....

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by R8ers

Does that guy have a boner?

just what the Chiefs needed, a Jerry Sandusky clone.

[YayMike]

Do the rankings of Daboll indicate how truly bad his offenses were run or is it that he really had dog shit talent on his teams with no deccent QB. I tend to think that other than the QB position we are more talented than any other team he has had before

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

By all accounts, there's the possibility of 4 or 5 first round QBs in the 2013 draft, and with a number of teams addressing their QB position in the draft last year, and in this upcoming draft, It would appear that the Chiefs could be in a very good position to pick one next year, wven if they aren't at the top of the draft.

I would much, much rather do that. I cringe at the idea of putting that kind of value on Tannehill. Even if it's in a trade down.

I still would like to see the Chiefs make some kind of a push for Jimmy Clausen. Despite his rookie year performance, I think his upside is a hell of a lot higher than Tannehill's. And he comes a few rounds cheaper.