The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12


Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Post a complete breakdown, year by year for him. I would do it but I'm on a phone. He has marked improvement.

No, they're really about the same, stat wise.

However, I do think Smith is less likely to fold under pressure. This is why he played well in the play-off game vs the Saints.

Or, maybe it was just because their D sucked.

Either way, he's not winning a SB.

[ratchet]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Career:

Alex Smith - 59.3% comp, 81 TD, 63 INT, 79.1 QB rating

Matt Cassel - 58.9% comp, 82 TD, 57 INT, 80.4 QB rating

please don't be dumb. I'll bring everything into context for you. Matt cassel had two insanely crappy years the past two years. Alex smith on the other hand had some tough years becasue his team was horrible so no one knew what he actually could do given a good situation. He finally got some talent and he blossomed and since for the past couple of years been playing like a top 5 qb statistically. He's also shown grit and the ability to play clutch in the 4th quarter. Matt cassel hasn't proved squat! He had a okay year with pats, good year with chiefs and then started sputtering to be one of the worst qbs in the league. Timing is everything. Alex could have even worse career stats but if he had a 150 rating past 2 years I would believe that his most recent play is a better barometer for the level he is at. Fact is, Alex has ascended to become a good, dependable, winning qb and cassel for past 2 years has descended to being one of the worst qbs in the league.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by ratchet

man if you think cassel is smith you are out of your mind! I guarantee you every single gm would take smith over cassel. He's not just better he's way better. Cassel was never an efficient qb and never had alex smith's stats ever. Alex smith even in the dark niner ages never had a year like cassel had last season.

LOL Let's look at each QB's career stats. In short, you're full of shit. They're the exact same guy.


Alex Smth

games
80

Attempts
2,177

Comp
1,290

Perc.
59.3

Yards
14,280

TD's
81

INT's
63

Matt Cassel

Games
78

Throws
2044

Cmp
1203

Cmp%
58.9

Yards
13,495

TD's
82

INT's
57

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by ratchet

please don't be dumb. I'll bring everything into context for you. Matt cassel had two insanely crappy years the past two years. Alex smith on the other hand had some tough years becasue his team was horrible so no one knew what he actually could do given a good situation. He finally got some talent and he blossomed and since for the past couple of years been playing like a top 5 qb statistically. He's also shown grit and the ability to play clutch in the 4th quarter. Matt cassel hasn't proved squat! He had a okay year with pats, good year with chiefs and then started sputtering to be one of the worst qbs in the league. Timing is everything. Alex could have even worse career stats but if he had a 150 rating past 2 years I would believe that his most recent play is a better barometer for the level he is at. Fact is, Alex has ascended to become a good, dependable, winning qb and cassel for past 2 years has descended to being one of the worst qbs in the league.

Please, just stop.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by ratchet

please don't be dumb. I'll bring everything into context for you. Matt cassel had two insanely crappy years the past two years. Alex smith on the other hand had some tough years becasue his team was horrible so no one knew what he actually could do given a good situation. He finally got some talent and he blossomed and since for the past couple of years been playing like a top 5 qb statistically. He's also shown grit and the ability to play clutch in the 4th quarter. Matt cassel hasn't proved squat! He had a okay year with pats, good year with chiefs and then started sputtering to be one of the worst qbs in the league. Timing is everything. Alex could have even worse career stats but if he had a 150 rating past 2 years I would believe that his most recent play is a better barometer for the level he is at. Fact is, Alex has ascended to become a good, dependable, winning qb and cassel for past 2 years has descended to being one of the worst qbs in the league.

Alex Smith had less than 20 TDs the past 2 years. Hes never had a season over 3500 yards. How is that top 5. That's not even top 15.
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[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

LOL Let's look at each QB's career stats.

Alex Smth Matt Cassel

games
80 78

Attempts
2,177 2044

Comp
1,290 1203

Perc.
59.3 58.9

Yards
14,280 13,495

TD's
81 82

INT's
63 57

Try looking at the last 4 years for each QB. I'm not trying to troll or anything here, he has seen marked improvement, whereas Cassel has went downhill.

[ratchet]

Originally Posted by -King-

Alex Smith had less than 20 TDs the past 2 years. Hes never had a season over 3500 yards. How is that top 5. That's not even top 15.
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last year he was on pace to throw 26 tds and throw 3600 yards. Also, yards isn't everything. Look at his passer rating. did cassel even get to within 10 points of alex's 104 ever?

[ratchet]

Originally Posted by Dave

Please, just stop.

i will not stop being rational

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Try looking at the last 4 years for each QB. I'm not trying to troll or anything here, he has seen marked improvement, whereas Cassel has went downhill.

His coaching and talent went up, whereas Cassel's went down. 2010 was Cassel's best coaching in KC. Got them to 10-6 and another first round playoff defeat. I'm sure Andy Reid could do that with Alex Smith for the next 5 years as well. I want more. I want a championship.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by ratchet

i will not stop being rational

LOL You're being rational?

[BigMeatballDave]

3600 yards in a season is absolute shit in today's NFL.

[threebag]

Not only did his coaching talent go up but the coaching carousel stopped. Once the musical chairs stopped he has improved.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

His coaching and talent went up, whereas Cassel's went down. 2010 was Cassel's best coaching in KC. Got them to 10-6 and another first round playoff defeat. I'm sure Andy Reid could do that with Alex Smith for the next 5 years as well. I want more. I want a championship.

Of course. FWIW I only consider Smith as a solid QB to compete for the starting job with Geno. If he is giftwrapped the job then **** it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Dave

3600 yards in a season is absolute shit in today's NFL.

225 yards a game. Exactly 1 step above Matt Cassel. 1 step out of about 150.

[ratchet]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

His coaching and talent went up, whereas Cassel's went down. 2010 was Cassel's best coaching in KC. Got them to 10-6 and another first round playoff defeat. I'm sure Andy Reid could do that with Alex Smith for the next 5 years as well. I want more. I want a championship.

I don't understand how geno is supposed to be a better chance at winning a championship. I don't mind drafting him but who knows what he'll become. Alex smith right now is just a good qb who knows how to take advantage of talent and make this offense into a well-oiled machine. He's not going to stand out like the rodgers and bradys of this world but as an offensive unit as whole we can be a dangerous unit with the run game and efficient, high percentage passing/scoring.