MU ****Official 2017 Missouri Tigers Football Thread**** - Page 24

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10:01 AM

Year two of the Barry Odom era begins in a little over a month.

2017 Schedule:

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Hamas' Crystal ball says 6-6 w/ two SEC wins (SC @ home and @Vandy).

Recruiting:

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duncan_idaho · 09-24-2017, 06:48 AM

If Odom doesn't find a way to turn things, he's going to end up 2-10 or 1-11, and I can't see any way he survives into next year, even.

I have to ask... what's it going to take for people pissed off by the protests in 2015 to get over it?

They've completely turned over the administration leadership that was in place.

Some of the players and students involved in the protests are still at Mizzou, but most have moved on. (And you couldn't booted every player on the team unless you wanted to self-impose a death penalty).

Seriously. What's it going to take to get over it?

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Al Bundy · 09-24-2017, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If Odom doesn't find a way to turn things, he's going to end up 2-10 or 1-11, and I can't see any way he survives into next year, even.

I have to ask... what's it going to take for people pissed off by the protests in 2015 to get over it?

They've completely turned over the administration leadership that was in place.

Some of the players and students involved in the protests are still at Mizzou, but most have moved on. (And you couldn't booted every player on the team unless you wanted to self-impose a death penalty).

Seriously. What's it going to take to get over it?

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Middle aged white men who have never faced any kind of racial profiling or injustice are extremely are very sensitive when it comes to having to face that they have it very good in the United States.

Mosbonian · 09-24-2017, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If Odom doesn't find a way to turn things, he's going to end up 2-10 or 1-11, and I can't see any way he survives into next year, even.

I have to ask... what's it going to take for people pissed off by the protests in 2015 to get over it?

They've completely turned over the administration leadership that was in place.

Some of the players and students involved in the protests are still at Mizzou, but most have moved on. (And you couldn't booted every player on the team unless you wanted to self-impose a death penalty).

Seriously. What's it going to take to get over it?

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duncan.....people still talk about what happened at Baylor (the first time not the recent debacle) so I doubt it will ever completely go away.

I think the last vestiges of people talking about it will go away when the MAJOR sports (basketball and football) finally regain some respectability.

Put some pride back in what is on the court and what is on the field and people tend to forget a lot. You have to admit that what we have watched the last few years in regards to football and basketball isn't something to be happy about. So people have to have something/someone to blame and it's easy to point back to that. (Right or wrong....)

Do we have a better AD...absolutely. Does it appear that we could actually have a basketball team worth watching in the winter.....absolutely! That gives me a little hope....but you have to admit that we are a few years away from regaining any respect in football. That has more to do with poor choices in coaching and recruiting than anything else.

I could care less that there is a smaller enrollment this fall....what is sad is watching a less than competitive situation in sports.

No matter what the reason...

patteeu · 09-24-2017, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If Odom doesn't find a way to turn things, he's going to end up 2-10 or 1-11, and I can't see any way he survives into next year, even.

I have to ask... what's it going to take for people pissed off by the protests in 2015 to get over it?

They've completely turned over the administration leadership that was in place.

Some of the players and students involved in the protests are still at Mizzou, but most have moved on. (And you couldn't booted every player on the team unless you wanted to self-impose a death penalty).

Seriously. What's it going to take to get over it?

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A successful football team would be a good start. As long as the team is down, the CS1950 protests and the absurd response from administration (including Gary Pinkel) will be remembered as the beginning of (and possibly catalyst for) the collapse.

Mizzou_8541 · 09-24-2017, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

duncan.....people still talk about what happened at Baylor (the first time not the recent debacle) so I doubt it will ever completely go away.

I think the last vestiges of people talking about it will go away when the MAJOR sports (basketball and football) finally regain some respectability.

Put some pride back in what is on the court and what is on the field and people tend to forget a lot. You have to admit that what we have watched the last few years in regards to football and basketball isn't something to be happy about. So people have to have something/someone to blame and it's easy to point back to that. (Right or wrong....)

Do we have a better AD...absolutely. Does it appear that we could actually have a basketball team worth watching in the winter.....absolutely! That gives me a little hope....but you have to admit that we are a few years away from regaining any respect in football. That has more to do with poor choices in coaching and recruiting than anything else.

I could care less that there is a smaller enrollment this fall....what is sad is watching a less than competitive situation in sports.

No matter what the reason...

Not to take away from your point, but I believe enrollment is back to normal levels. Or at least applications. Driving now (home from the game) but I’ll see if I can dig it up.

BryanBusby · 09-24-2017, 07:50 AM

As much as you guys want to kick and flail your feet around, the CS1950 ordeal didn't hurt the sports program.

It didn't hurt them hiring a minority BB coach and pulling together a majorly impressive recruiting class. As much as you snowflakes want to cry, the kids didn't give a shit.

Football was declining before the shit started. Man too bad we couldn't of held strong with are amazing 4-6 record before the protests began.

Yep, the protests really hurt the bad recruiting classes Pinkel had leading up to it. Wait, it didn't.

Dumb protests didn't make them forget football fundaments or turn them into a bizarre "unit"

Footnall protests didn't make Maty Mauk snort coke and put out Drew Lock. University protests aren't why Lock sucks.

An extremely incompetent AD (here's a shocker, also hired before it) couldn't do his job and amazingly enough, still can't.

It hasn't stopped Sterk from raising record figures even after all these boosters alleged they weren't donating anymore. Looks like that wasn't true.

Nobody is denying an impact on the protests overall, but it's not affecting the sports programs, even though you guys really really hope it does.

Jim Sterk is going to make another good hire, you guys will pout because that's all you really want to do in the end, and the football program will get turned around.

**Bowser** · 09-24-2017, 07:58 AM

I think the fact of Mizzou football being in the dumpster right now just forces people to want to assign blame as to WHY they're so bad, and the CS1950 shit is the low hanging fruit to that goal. If Mizzou turns it around and wins 8 games next year, not a single person will bring up CS1950 in relation to football again.

duncan_idaho · 09-24-2017, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

duncan.....people still talk about what happened at Baylor (the first time not the recent debacle) so I doubt it will ever completely go away.

I think the last vestiges of people talking about it will go away when the MAJOR sports (basketball and football) finally regain some respectability.

Put some pride back in what is on the court and what is on the field and people tend to forget a lot. You have to admit that what we have watched the last few years in regards to football and basketball isn't something to be happy about. So people have to have something/someone to blame and it's easy to point back to that. (Right or wrong....)

Do we have a better AD...absolutely. Does it appear that we could actually have a basketball team worth watching in the winter.....absolutely! That gives me a little hope....but you have to admit that we are a few years away from regaining any respect in football. That has more to do with poor choices in coaching and recruiting than anything else.

I could care less that there is a smaller enrollment this fall....what is sad is watching a less than competitive situation in sports.

No matter what the reason...

You mean when one of the players ****ing MURDERED his teammate and the scumbag coach worked like a dog to cover it up, including trying to get all of his players to lie and say the same the poor murdered SOB was a drug dealer?

Or when the university systematically covered up multiple sexual assault allegations, engaged in structured victim blaming, and let the coach run wild in pursuit of wins?

Both are far, far down the road from players joining a protest on their campus and getting basic support from their coaches.

I think the points about success being a key to people getting over it are good. And that it is sticking for those pissed about the lack of success.

Mack Rhoades and R Bowen Loftin were the biggest cancers that have been excised. Rhoades with his ghost man act, lack of work, and terrible handling of things/terrible hires.

**gblowfish** · 09-24-2017, 08:50 AM

I was at the game last night. We went to Flat Branch Brewery for a drink and a meal before the game. It was outstanding. Got a bus to the stadium, sat upstairs on the east side at about the 40 yard line, watched the sun go down. Mizzou looked like a Pop Warner Team trying to play Rockhurst. It was brutal. Can't remember a game this bad since Oklahoma beat them 77-0 back when Bob Stull was the coach. The air just had totally left the stadium about four minutes into the game. Mizzou made so many unforced errors, it just looked to me like they were poorly, and I mean POORLY coached.

We left the game after Mizzou's second TD, it was 51-14. By that time there was about 2,000 Auburn fans and about 200 Mizzou fans left in the stadium. We went back to the bus, and the bus supervisor made us wait till the game was over before the bus would leave. People were PISSED OFF. Took us around 45 minutes to get back to our car, got home after Midnight.

One good thing I'll say. Mizzou girls like to wear high hemmed summer dresses with cowboy boots, and they look smokin hot. No shortage of pretty women at Mizzou.

BryanBusby · 09-24-2017, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I was at the game last night. We went to Flat Branch Brewery for a drink and a meal before the game. It was outstanding. Got a bus to the stadium, sat upstairs on the east side at about the 40 yard line, watched the sun go down. Mizzou looked like a Pop Warner Team trying to play Rockhurst. It was brutal. Can't remember a game this bad since Oklahoma beat them 77-0 back with Bob Stull was the coach. The air just had totally left the stadium about four minutes into the game. Mizzou made so many unforced errors, it just looked to me like they were poorly, and I mean POORLY coached.

We left the game after Mizzou's second TD, it was 51-14. By that time there was about 2,000 Auburn fans and about 200 Mizzou fans left in the stadium. We went back to the bus, and the bus supervisor made us wait till the game was over before the bus would leave. People were PISSED OFF. Took us around 45 minutes to get back to our car, got home after Midnight.

One good thing I'll say. Mizzou girls like to wear high hemmed summer dresses with cowboy boots, and they look smokin hot. No shortage of pretty women at Mizzou.

Condolences on having to watch a legal abortion take place on that field.

**Bowser** · 09-24-2017, 08:57 AM

Flat Branch Brewery is a must stop every time we go see the kid. Great everything there.

Discuss Thrower · 09-24-2017, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If Odom doesn't find a way to turn things, he's going to end up 2-10 or 1-11, and I can't see any way he survives into next year, even.

I have to ask... what's it going to take for people pissed off by the protests in 2015 to get over it?

They've completely turned over the administration leadership that was in place.

Some of the players and students involved in the protests are still at Mizzou, but most have moved on. (And you couldn't booted every player on the team unless you wanted to self-impose a death penalty).

Seriously. What's it going to take to get over it?

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Something like a quarter of the MU faculty protested the firing of Melissa Click and the UM system is still kowtowing to cultural Marxism.

To say things have changed administratively is disingenuous.

Mosbonian · 09-24-2017, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

As much as you guys want to kick and flail your feet around, the CS1950 ordeal didn't hurt the sports program.

It didn't hurt them hiring a minority BB coach and pulling together a majorly impressive recruiting class. As much as you snowflakes want to cry, the kids didn't give a shit..

That house of cards tumbles if we don't get Michael Porter, Jr.

Mosbonian · 09-24-2017, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Nobody is denying an impact on the protests overall, but it's not affecting the sports programs, even though you guys really really hope it does.

Jim Sterk is going to make another good hire, you guys will pout because that's all you really want to do in the end, and the football program will get turned around.

Actually.....your position of anger is just as off as those you rail at for thinking it has caused the downfall.

And yes, you are denying it's impact. And no I really don't want it to...

I hope Sterk makes a good hire this time and turns the major sports around. He started by getting Cuonzo Martin...now let's see if he has to stones to get ride of a guy who is just completely over-matched when it comes to being a head coach at an SEC football team.

Mosbonian · 09-24-2017, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

You mean when one of the players ****ing MURDERED his teammate and the scumbag coach worked like a dog to cover it up, including trying to get all of his players to lie and say the same the poor murdered SOB was a drug dealer?

Or when the university systematically covered up multiple sexual assault allegations, engaged in structured victim blaming, and let the coach run wild in pursuit of wins?

Both are far, far down the road from players joining a protest on their campus and getting basic support from their coaches.

I think the points about success being a key to people getting over it are good. And that it is sticking for those pissed about the lack of success.

Mack Rhoades and R Bowen Loftin were the biggest cancers that have been excised. Rhoades with his ghost man act, lack of work, and terrible handling of things/terrible hires.

You are right....the comparisons of the events are a poor choice. What I am trying (and rather poorly I admit) to point out is that once an event of enough proportions happens and it brings major news networks to focus on the negatives of your university, people tend to have long memories.

I think Sterk is pulling all the right cords....I just worry that he will give Odom another season before pulling the plug.

07-20-2017, 07:10 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	**Official 2017 Missouri Tigers Football Thread Year two of the Barry Odom era begins in a little over a month. 2017 Schedule: Spoiler! 9/2: vs Southwest Missouri State 9/9: vs South Carolina 9/16: vs Purdue 9/23: vs Auburn 10/7: @Kentucky 10/14: @Georgia 10/21: vs Idaho 10/28 @UConn 11/4: vs Florida 11/11: vs Tennessee 11/18: @Vanderbilt 11/24: @Arkansas Hamas' Crystal ball says 6-6 w/ two SEC wins (SC @ home and @Vandy). Recruiting: Bold=Signed LOI Spoiler! Commitments: Daniel Parker Jr, DE: ** 5.8 RR, Blue Springs, MO Antar Thompson, DT: * 5.7 RR, Highland C.C. (JUCO), KS Mike Ruth, OL: * 5.6 RR, Coppell, TX Danny Gray, WR: , 5.7 RR, Dallas, TX* Harry Ballard III, WR: , 5.5 RR, Ellisville, MS* Jalen Knox, RB: *, 5.7 RR, Arlington, TX Tyrone Collins, DB, , 5.5 RR, Bradenton, FL Kam Scott, WR: , 5.7 RR, Manvel, TX Chad Bailey, LB: , 5.8 RR, Missouri City, TX Cameron Wilkins, LB: , 5.6 RR, Del Valle, TX* Jarvis Ware, CB: , 5.3 RR, Apopka, FL Trajan Jeffcoat, DE: *, 5.5 RR, Columbia, SC Gerald Nathan Jr., LB: , 5.5 RR, Charlotte, NC* Chris Mills, DB: , 5.5 RR, Converse, TX* Dominic Gicinto, WR: , 5.3 RR, Raytown, MO Javon Foster, OL: , 5.3 RR, West Bloomfield, MI Khmari Thompson, WR: , 5.5 RR, Lawrenceville, GA* Sami Bakare, RB: , 5.4 RR, Austin, TX Nick Bolton, LB, , 5.6 RR, Frisco, TX Xavier Delgado, OT, , 5.5 RR, Glendale, AZ Bobby Lawrence, OL, , 5.4 RR, St. Joseph, MO Lindsey Scott Jr. QB, , 5.7 RR, Scooby MS (JUCO)* Jatorian Hansford, LB, , 5.6 RR, Forsyth, GA* Tyler Badie, RB, , 5.3 RR, Memphis, TN** There are several key recruits in state this year, and Missouri is not off to a promising start. There are seven 4* players within the state and thus far Missouri has no commitments. Texas and Nebraska both have one. If Odom cannot lock down a good portion of this in-state talent crop, it's unlikely he sees his second recruiting class graduate. Last edited by 'Hamas' Jenkins; 02-07-2018 at 10:01 AM..
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09-24-2017, 06:48 AM	#346
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1770308	If Odom doesn't find a way to turn things, he's going to end up 2-10 or 1-11, and I can't see any way he survives into next year, even. I have to ask... what's it going to take for people pissed off by the protests in 2015 to get over it? They've completely turned over the administration leadership that was in place. Some of the players and students involved in the protests are still at Mizzou, but most have moved on. (And you couldn't booted every player on the team unless you wanted to self-impose a death penalty). Seriously. What's it going to take to get over it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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09-24-2017, 07:50 AM	#351
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3799900 VARSITY	As much as you guys want to kick and flail your feet around, the CS1950 ordeal didn't hurt the sports program. It didn't hurt them hiring a minority BB coach and pulling together a majorly impressive recruiting class. As much as you snowflakes want to cry, the kids didn't give a shit. Football was declining before the shit started. Man too bad we couldn't of held strong with are amazing 4-6 record before the protests began. Yep, the protests really hurt the bad recruiting classes Pinkel had leading up to it. Wait, it didn't. Dumb protests didn't make them forget football fundaments or turn them into a bizarre "unit" Footnall protests didn't make Maty Mauk snort coke and put out Drew Lock. University protests aren't why Lock sucks. An extremely incompetent AD (here's a shocker, also hired before it) couldn't do his job and amazingly enough, still can't. It hasn't stopped Sterk from raising record figures even after all these boosters alleged they weren't donating anymore. Looks like that wasn't true. Nobody is denying an impact on the protests overall, but it's not affecting the sports programs, even though you guys really really hope it does. Jim Sterk is going to make another good hire, you guys will pout because that's all you really want to do in the end, and the football program will get turned around.
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09-24-2017, 07:58 AM	#352
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3461616	I think the fact of Mizzou football being in the dumpster right now just forces people to want to assign blame as to WHY they're so bad, and the CS1950 shit is the low hanging fruit to that goal. If Mizzou turns it around and wins 8 games next year, not a single person will bring up CS1950 in relation to football again.
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09-24-2017, 08:50 AM	#354
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	I was at the game last night. We went to Flat Branch Brewery for a drink and a meal before the game. It was outstanding. Got a bus to the stadium, sat upstairs on the east side at about the 40 yard line, watched the sun go down. Mizzou looked like a Pop Warner Team trying to play Rockhurst. It was brutal. Can't remember a game this bad since Oklahoma beat them 77-0 back when Bob Stull was the coach. The air just had totally left the stadium about four minutes into the game. Mizzou made so many unforced errors, it just looked to me like they were poorly, and I mean POORLY coached. We left the game after Mizzou's second TD, it was 51-14. By that time there was about 2,000 Auburn fans and about 200 Mizzou fans left in the stadium. We went back to the bus, and the bus supervisor made us wait till the game was over before the bus would leave. People were PISSED OFF. Took us around 45 minutes to get back to our car, got home after Midnight. One good thing I'll say. Mizzou girls like to wear high hemmed summer dresses with cowboy boots, and they look smokin hot. No shortage of pretty women at Mizzou. Last edited by gblowfish; 09-24-2017 at 08:56 AM..
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09-24-2017, 08:57 AM	#356
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