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Old 01-13-2013, 06:42 PM   #1
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That's my thought as well. He's a gamer, no question, always showed up in big games in college too, but I expect a bit of a sophomore slump out of him and kaepernick both. I think it really benefits rookies to play pistol-style simplified playbooks, but I expect them to struggle as the playbooks are opened up a little more next year, and the league has plenty to study, both of them and their tendencies, and the playcalling.

Great year, though, no question.
It's not fair to lump him in with Kaepernick, IMO. SF runs a much more simplified O than Seattle, even if the Hawks do use zone read concepts.
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Old 01-13-2013, 07:23 PM   #2
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It's not fair to lump him in with Kaepernick, IMO. SF runs a much more simplified O than Seattle, even if the Hawks do use zone read concepts.
That might be as much a matter of time on the field as it is anything else. If Kaepernick had started out the year as the starter they might do do more with him now. Although that team is traditionally pretty risk-averse on offense. But he has, what, 8 or 9 starts in two years? You don't usually see teams open up the playbook with a guy who comes in mid-year.

I'm not a big fan of Kaepernick's, in any case, my main point is that I've seen a lot of a first year starters do this kind of thing, then come back to struggle. Newton being the most recent example that comes to mind. Still had a decent season, but more of a decline from last year than a progression. I would not be surprised to see the same for Wilson, and I'd probably temper my expectations in the near-term were I a Seahawks fan.

Hope he does well, though. Nice to see a (young - brady doesn't count) big 10 QB playing some good football for a change. And I've always found the Seahawks to be a team that's hard to dislike.
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That might be as much a matter of time on the field as it is anything else. If Kaepernick had started out the year as the starter they might do do more with him now. Although that team is traditionally pretty risk-averse on offense. But he has, what, 8 or 9 starts in two years? You don't usually see teams open up the playbook with a guy who comes in mid-year.

I'm not a big fan of Kaepernick's, in any case, my main point is that I've seen a lot of a first year starters do this kind of thing, then come back to struggle. Newton being the most recent example that comes to mind. Still had a decent season, but more of a decline from last year than a progression. I would not be surprised to see the same for Wilson, and I'd probably temper my expectations in the near-term were I a Seahawks fan.

Hope he does well, though. Nice to see a (young - brady doesn't count) big 10 QB playing some good football for a change. And I've always found the Seahawks to be a team that's hard to dislike.
Kaepernick's a second year player, Wilson isn't. That means he's had an additional year to ingest NFL playbooks. I think it's fair to make a pretty straight comparison about where they are in their development, realizing that nothing is a direct 1:1 substitute for starting.
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