Now that the season is over, it's time to bench Wesley... - Page 3

htismaqe · 10-15-2006, 06:21 PM

Dumbass basically spotted them 14 points.

Time to let Pollard learn on the job...

Hammock Parties · 10-15-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We had to give up over 500 yards of offense today. There is no way we are even sniffing the top 12 at this point.

This just balances out the 49er game.

Deberg_1990 · 10-15-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

This just balances out the 49er game.

Yep, perfectly mediorce once again.......sigh...

Thanks Gunther!

Halfcan · 10-15-2006, 09:02 PM

That hit by GWes was solid. He has played pretty well this year.

htismaqe · 10-16-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

The zone shifts to where the quarterback looks. Those 2 safeties are responsible for an entire half of the field. Without a pass rush they really can't be supermen. That was really just a good offensive play call against what they knew would be a cover 2 defense. The pump fake to the RIGHT draws the safeties to the right...the run fake draws them up...then boom......the receiver is wide open right where he's supposed to be....and the safety is exactly where they thought he'd be. The problem is the defensive line (particularly the tackles) more often then not doesn't get to the quarterback so offenses can run scripted stuff like that against the base cover 2. It has been there for opposing offenses all season long.

A team like chicago would've been all over the quarterback before he'd ever have time to pull something like that off....cuz they get to the quarterback.

The lack of pass rush is exascerbated by the fact that Greg Wesley has the field awareness of a Pee Wee football player...

Chiefnj · 10-16-2006, 08:15 AM

I'm pretty sure they broke down Ward's TD on ESPN and it was Page who blew the coverage.

jspchief · 10-16-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I'm pretty sure they broke down Ward's TD on ESPN and it was Page who blew the coverage.

It was. He stood there like a damn statue. Law pulled off because his zone was the corner. Page should have been falling into the area where Ward was wide open.

I don't remember if it was play-action, but for whatever reason Page was frozen.

Chiefnj · 10-16-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

It was. He stood there like a damn statue. Law pulled off because his zone was the corner. Page should have been falling into the area where Ward was wide open.

I don't remember if it was play-action, but for whatever reason Page was frozen.

He followed a different receiver/TE in on a curl pattern and didn't go deep.

He's young. He'll learn.

Kyle401 · 10-16-2006, 08:21 AM

Putting Pollard and Page in at safety together would certainly ensure that the season is over. Personally, I would like to see how we play against "the best team not to make the playoffs last year" before writing this season off and playing for picks.

htismaqe · 10-16-2006, 08:21 AM

Wesley followed the slot WR across the field to the inside. I watched again last night. Are we playing man under?

htismaqe · 10-16-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

He followed a different receiver/TE in on a curl pattern and didn't go deep.

He's young. He'll learn.

So it was page that followed the drag and not Wesley?

**Easy 6** · 10-16-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yep, perfectly mediorce once again.......sigh...

Thanks Gunther!

I think after a showing like this that ultimate blame go to coaches to dude, but there were blown coverages left n right and our DT's got smoked all day leaving our LB's vulnerable.

jspchief · 10-16-2006, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

So it was page that followed the drag and not Wesley?

I don't think so. Page just stood there.

I'm pulling it up on Tivo to double check

jspchief · 10-16-2006, 08:39 AM

After rewatching it, it's clear that the biggest error was Page. He did chase the curling TE, but he chased him right into Wesley's zone. He should have let the TE go, relying on Wesley to cover that area, and kept to his side of the field.

I also question Law's role in the play. He released to the outside deep zone, but it was clear there was no one in that area. Ward was the only wideout on that side, and the TE coming across short was blanketed by DJ. Maybe the zone coverage is strict enough that Law isn't allowed to recognize that and adjust... I'm not sure.

htismaqe · 10-16-2006, 08:39 AM

OK, thanks.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to give Page a free pass. But he's a 7th-round rookie.

Wesley is a seasoned veteran who's been starting for years.

jspchief · 10-16-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

OK, thanks.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to give Page a free pass. But he's a 7th-round rookie.

Wesley is a seasoned veteran who's been starting for years.

He is a rookie. But if we've determined he's worthy of starting in the NFL, I don't see that as an acceptable excuse.

Page played bad all day. I don't know if Knight would have done better in those situations or not. He may not have had the speed to get to Washington on the tackle that Page blew, but he probably would have covered his zone better on that Ward TD.

And Wesley played terrible as usual. One big hit after allowing a 9 yard run makes half the morons on this BB think he's good, while they are too stupid to recognize that he let Washington run free on that long pass.

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Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	I'm pretty sure they broke down Ward's TD on ESPN and it was Page who blew the coverage. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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Kyle401 1st Round Bust Join Date: Feb 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	Putting Pollard and Page in at safety together would certainly ensure that the season is over. Personally, I would like to see how we play against "the best team not to make the playoffs last year" before writing this season off and playing for picks. __________________ Adopt a Chief: Eric "Bench Warmer" Hicks - AKA Hali's Towel Boy
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Wesley followed the slot WR across the field to the inside. I watched again last night. Are we playing man under?
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10-16-2006, 08:39 AM	#43
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	After rewatching it, it's clear that the biggest error was Page. He did chase the curling TE, but he chased him right into Wesley's zone. He should have let the TE go, relying on Wesley to cover that area, and kept to his side of the field. I also question Law's role in the play. He released to the outside deep zone, but it was clear there was no one in that area. Ward was the only wideout on that side, and the TE coming across short was blanketed by DJ. Maybe the zone coverage is strict enough that Law isn't allowed to recognize that and adjust... I'm not sure. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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